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  • #16
    Re: Steps remove enemy Defense buffs?

    Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
    It actually troubles me that you're a 75 Dancer and don't know that. It really gives me the impression that you look at it as "oh, it's just some magic something-or-other that I don't care about."
    1. I'm glad you have access to wiki .../clap ... and seriously, your 2cents in this thread is /telling me your disappointed in me? Thanks mom....

    2. Casters never even ask for Stutter Step to be used. I would think that they would and I have offered on slept mobs (steps don't awaken) but I'm told over and over again it's not as useful as debuffing for melee since the casters stats are soooo jacked up... I find my unfamiliarity of Stutter Step comes more from my ignorance of casters (*see my caster lvls) and caster's ignorance of DNC abilities. Why would I waste TP spamming something I don't really understand and a vast majority of casters I play around think is useless to them? Don't get me wrong... Stutter Step NOT useless. It's come in handy a few times (CoP fights) but most used in campaign when the mob everyone is hitting has already been maxed out on Step/Box steps and you need to get the steps in 2's instead of 1's. So in essence it's not just " oh, it's just some magic something-or-other that I don't care about", it's "oh, it's just some magic something-or-other that MOST PLAYERS don't care about"

    3. Almost a moot point anyhow since most of the community (out of sheer ignorance) would rather us not even come DNC at all.
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    • #17
      Re: Steps remove enemy Defense buffs?

      I don't blame you for not fooling around much with the JA. It's not like it has this huge demand for use anyway. Stutter Steps primary request seems to me to be when you're fighting something that's LV 90+. MAcc against a [mega boss] would be certainly a dream-send for a BLM, more-so for a RDM SCH. SMN could benefit.

      There's possibly the occasion in point BCNM or such nonsense.

      The question is, how often could you keep it up since these types of NM/HNM already have high evasion and level difference. I don't see it happening on Suzaku lol comfortably.

      The sound of -30% magic evade sounds pretty pretty godly if you ask me though. If you somehow coupled that with Death Blossom, that's -40% right there. Lowered Magic Evasion is a big thing. (Seems both debuffs would stack without fail.) With my BLM set up, I can semi-comfortably pull off nukes on Kirin with ease. I do most of my omgwtfdmg from Elemental Seal however.

      Armando Warmando posted some good info about how MEvd plays into MAcc he found off a Japanese site. Problem is, how often do you see 75 DNC get invited to HNMLS/SKY events? Given the fact that DNC relies on TP to get their moves going and getting TP off a high end monster is already a case in and of itself.... pity.


      Anyway, after foolling around with the DNC job I realized I was reading the logs wrong and that Steps don't overwrite buffs. They would just assist in lowering them a little. :/ Darn, that woulda been nice though. Of course, one of my friends is convinced DNC is broken.
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      • #18
        Re: Steps remove enemy Defense buffs?

        Originally posted by Neverslip View Post
        1. I'm glad you have access to wiki .../clap ... and seriously, your 2cents in this thread is /telling me your disappointed in me? Thanks mom....

        2. Casters never even ask for Stutter Step to be used. I would think that they would and I have offered on slept mobs (steps don't awaken) but I'm told over and over again it's not as useful as debuffing for melee since the casters stats are soooo jacked up... I find my unfamiliarity of Stutter Step comes more from my ignorance of casters (*see my caster lvls) and caster's ignorance of DNC abilities. Why would I waste TP spamming something I don't really understand and a vast majority of casters I play around think is useless to them? Don't get me wrong... Stutter Step NOT useless. It's come in handy a few times (CoP fights) but most used in campaign when the mob everyone is hitting has already been maxed out on Step/Box steps and you need to get the steps in 2's instead of 1's. So in essence it's not just " oh, it's just some magic something-or-other that I don't care about", it's "oh, it's just some magic something-or-other that MOST PLAYERS don't care about"

        3. Almost a moot point anyhow since most of the community (out of sheer ignorance) would rather us not even come DNC at all.
        1. I'm a freaking Red Mage. I know just about any ability that helps me like the back of my hand.

        2. Lmnop already spelled out half of this issue in the post right before your post. The other half, casters not asking for it, is moot, because even if they did, it would be their voice versus the three or four people on the frontline, anyway. I know I'd totally ask for it at once I got to that level . . .

        3. An incredibly valid point: how can we have people not be ignorant to how much and how uniquely Stutter Step helps the backline if people are still ignorant to the usefulness of Dancer as a whole?
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