Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

[Ziero]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

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As someone who has mnk lvled to 37 for subbing to war, and *has* tried to 'tank' (aka, had a crappy nin as a tank so I couldn't go full DD) post update on ToAU mobs (some of the weakest EXP mobs in game) I can still say it hurts like hell. Wearing mostly def gear, I was still taking 200+ dmg crits from low IT crawlers with 100+ normal swings. I was an MP spounge and even when I tried, couldn't hold hate for long against the other (mp spounge) DDs. Died three times in that pt, so did the mnk, the Nin only died once (and used Mijin to boot) and the Drk was smart enough to turn around when he got hate. Though to be fair, I subbed /sam and not /mnk, but even /mnk wouldn't help me for long.

The dancer outfit doesn't impress me, but I haven't seen it on a Mithra, yet. S-E has been good to the cats when it comes to wardrobe, so I'm sure it'll look nice on my character.

It actually bugs me too. She has pants, actually, fully concealing pants. Pld AF doesn't have real pants, War Af shows more leg AND midrift then Dancer AF and thf AF shows *way* more cleavage. Now I'm not askin for a corsette and a thong or nothing, but they could have at least given them tights D=

[Malacite]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

What's weird is they took the male outfit from FFV and tweaked it for the ladies...


So what do the guys get?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

As someone who has mnk lvled to 37 for subbing to war, and *has* tried to 'tank' (aka, had a crappy nin as a tank so I couldn't go full DD) post update on ToAU mobs (some of the weakest EXP mobs in game) I can still say it hurts like hell. Wearing mostly def gear, I was still taking 200+ dmg crits from low IT crawlers with 100+ normal swings. I was an MP spounge and even when I tried, couldn't hold hate for long against the other (mp spounge) DDs. Died three times in that pt, so did the mnk, the Nin only died once (and used Mijin to boot) and the Drk was smart enough to turn around when he got hate. Though to be fair, I subbed /sam and not /mnk, but even /mnk wouldn't help me for long.

Again, I'm waiting for more data and further experimentation. I won't hold a poor merit PT with a short-notice tank WAR to be an example of a PT built to let WAR tank. Even with PLD or NIN, you have to invite jobs that supplement their styles of tanking or it won't work. The fact is, no one invites WAR to tank nor do they invite jobs or adapt themselves to WAR's needs for tanking.

Instead inviting a BRD for Minne songs and WARs gearing to tank, we have Haste-whipped WARs that yelp the moment they get hit and WHMs that conjure up 'tard jargon like "MP sponge" which just reinforces the myth that WAR can't tank.

What WHM means is "Dammit, I have to cast cure now."

Well, no shit, that's what WHMs do and why you're invited. Don't like it? Sign up to be something else.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

My favorite quote is from one of my friends who doesn't like meriting on NIN because "people expect him to tank."

And he doesn't like meriting on BRD because "people expect him to pull."

I mean, really. The demands of this community are outrageous. The nerve of some people.

So he MNK/NINs everything.

[Susurrus]

Long Derailed topic that used to be about a new FFXI job (Dancer?).

Again, I'm waiting for more data and further experimentation. I won't hold a poor merit PT with a short-notice tank WAR to be an example of a PT built to let WAR tank. Even with PLD or NIN, you have to invite jobs that supplement their styles of tanking or it won't work. The fact is, no one invites WAR to tank nor do they invite jobs or adapt themselves to WAR's needs for tanking.
Instead inviting a BRD for Minne songs and WARs gearing to tank, we have Haste-whipped WARs that yelp the moment they get hit and WHMs that conjure up 'tard jargon like "MP sponge" which just reinforces the myth that WAR can't tank.
What WHM means is "Dammit, I have to cast cure now."
Well, no shit, that's what WHMs do and why you're invited. Don't like it? Sign up to be something else.

There's a difference between "Dammit, I have to cast cure now." and "MP sponge."
On both RDM and WHM, I'll call "MP Sponge" when I'm out of MP casting constant Cure IV/V, not because I'm being wasteful, but because I'm keeping people alive. For example, on RDM I've used Convert and still ran out of MP in some parties, and the timer on Convert is still at 7-8 minutes!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

And he doesn't like meriting on BRD because "people expect him to pull."

I adapted to the trend of pulling while it was still something rather unconventional for a BRD to do. Its somewhat understandable that a pre-ToA BRD may not want to pull, or even a pre-CoP once since CoP was when Arrowburn was in its prime and they wanted BRDs to pull or at least stage mobs while roaming.

Not all BRDs did it and, honestly, I think /NIN is a weak sub for BRD and refuse to level it to placate current trends when RDM and COR can also pull as good as a BRD can (well, maybe not RDM as much, but they're not too bad off). But then, my BRD is pretty much dead and I'll probably never play it again after Sea access.

As far as Dancer AF goes, mithra is always going to look cute in their AFs, Like Tarutaru, they can't not look adorable in whatever you put them in (with two exceptions, which I'll mention later). I find it rather annoying that when I don my RNG AF that I feel like my mithra should be selling Girl Scout cookies, hell, i start craving some Thin Mint cookies every time I gear up for a 60 cap BCNM.

Whether I'm in /RNG or /WHM mode on COR these days, I find my best choices in pants to be quite distracting. I swear I think SE put good stats my my leg armor choices just because mithra have a nice rear.

My best MP option for legs is RSE (i.e. red panties) and if I toss in my crimson greaves with that, I've actually heightened the look on top of functionality. I could wear RSE2 feet, but I get AGI for QD from the greaves.

I have dusk trousers and like hell they're trousers on the female characters, these are almost booty pants and SE knows it. Pervs.

The only way I can make my mithra look stupid is Walhra Turban + Blue Coteharde. And while functional for MP, I can't stand the look of it.

On both RDM and WHM, I'll call "MP Sponge" when I'm out of MP casting constant Cure IV/V, not because I'm being wasteful, but because I'm keeping people alive. For example, on RDM I've used Convert and still ran out of MP in some parties, and the timer on Convert is still at 7-8 minutes!

Sorry, but if you need to constantly cast the highest tier Cures you have, something is wrong with you or the PT. I don't subscribe to the notion I need to be constantly topped off at max HP when I'm melee and using the highest tier cures you have is the best way to waste a lot of MP.

When I'm a healer, I'm there to keep you alive, not healthy. Healthy is your problem.

[Raydeus]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

What's weird is they took the male outfit from FFV and tweaked it for the ladies...


So what do the guys get?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

I still think we're getting this:

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

Ray, I thanked you, just so I could remove it.

[Susurrus]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

Sorry, but if you need to constantly cast the highest tier Cures you have, something is wrong with you or the PT. I don't subscribe to the notion I need to be constantly topped off at max HP when I'm melee and using the highest tier cures you have is the best way to waste a lot of MP.
When I'm a healer, I'm there to keep you alive, not healthy. Healthy is your problem.

Which is what I was referring to. Was just stating, mage screaming "MP Sponge!" =/= "I don't wanna cast a cure spell."

[Raydeus]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

Ray, I thanked you, just so I could remove it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

Cut and paste of a cut and paste from Alla, seems Elmer the Pointy did a translation:

The movie was a series of little clips strung together. New information was a little sparse, but these scenes give you a lot to think about. Too bad they wouldn’t let us photograph or record the movie ourselves. Still, we’ll give you what information we can.

The stage is set during the Great Crystal War. The way the refer to it has changed

(Instead of クリスタル戦争 kurisutaru sensou with phonetic katakana, they are going with kanji 水晶大戦) suishou taisen)

but it is still about the war between the humans and the Shadow Lord’s Army. In Wings of the Goddess, adventurers will cross through time and become involved in the Great Crystal War. The players will discover some shocking truths as well. “The Advent of the Soldiers of God” is another keyword we saw, which may refer to the adventurers themselves, or perhaps to something else, I’m not sure.

As for new jobs, we were told in an interview in July that there would be 2 or more added. Watching the movie, I was suddenly greeted with the figure of a woman in a beautiful outfit of a “Dancer.” This is probably the first new job. A “Dancer” first appeared in Final Fantasy V, where they could absorb an enemy’s HP and MP. They could also unleash consecutive attacks with abilities such as “Sword Dance,” using the “Dance” command. In FFXI, it has the potential to become a good support job.



Story-wise, I had to take what I could from the clips on the screen, but it seems to really delve into the Crystal War in a profound way. It is around the time that you can meet Queen Leaute, the expanding D’Oraguille family, the hero Karaha-Baruha, the former Mithra Matriarch Perih Vashai, and a host of other famous NPCs. Players who have been in FFXI for a long time have a lot to look forward to. In addition, what appeared to be “Atomos,” was also shown in the movie. The Crystal War seems to have much more to it than what we think we know.

There were also some details on the expansion’s content. The Vana’diel of the past will have new maps and new monsters as well. They also reiterated there will be a large-scale battle system implemented too. It was brief, but I saw a snippet of a Besieged-like battle playing out inside a town.

This movie will be available on the main site, starting September 22nd. Still the sound quality will be low, and you won’t get the same intense feel of watching it unfold on the big screen. I highly recommend seeing it at the convention if you have the chance.

[Raydeus]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

1000g say we'll see a flood of Rukia dancer macros.

"Some no mai! <annoyingcall1> <insert spell/ability name>"

"Tsugi no mai! <annoyingcall2> <insert spell/ability name>"


But I hope it's just baseless phear. @_@;

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

It's a lot better than a kajillion "HADOKEN" macros.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

Nothing is more horrid than the roleplay /say SMN and the Papa Roach DRK.