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  • #76
    Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

    I agree with you from the begining, but perhaps i shouldve explained my first post.

    I believe it is in SE's power to make the tank scene much better. That is all. Trough a new job if need be. Be that job a tank itself or a job that can drastically change some things to affect other jobs.

    What if you suddendly could tank efficietly as a RDM in EXP situation thanks to a Geomancer's defense buff? Or what if a Dancer could buff you into getting more hate for your actions? I can see a SAM doing just fine here, or a MNK, depending on their subjob and your party formation. And what if suddenly Dancer gets a skill that just draws or sheds hate?

    Imagine this:

    MNK WAR DRG DAN RDM WHM

    Mages in the back as usual. Melee next to the mob. Dancer sheds hate from the mages, therefore the melees are getting all the hate for themselves. WHM and RDM can Cure all they want because theyre not getting that much hate, and if they do get hate spikes, there's allways someone who can provoke, and if by some heavenly chance DAN also gets an ability for others to gain more hate on their actions, i can see the tides changing in ways no one expects.

    Personally i think this is just crazy enough to be viable.
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    • #77
      Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

      Holy Shit, Balfree, that actually made sense.
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      • #78
        Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

        Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
        Holy Shit, Balfree, that actually made sense.
        Which is why it would probably never happen. :/


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        • #79
          Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

          Originally posted by Balfree View Post
          I agree with you from the begining, but perhaps i shouldve explained my first post.
          I believe it is in SE's power to make the tank scene much better. That is all. Trough a new job if need be. Be that job a tank itself or a job that can drastically change some things to affect other jobs.
          What if you suddendly could tank efficietly as a RDM in EXP situation thanks to a Geomancer's defense buff? Or what if a Dancer could buff you into getting more hate for your actions? I can see a SAM doing just fine here, or a MNK, depending on their subjob and your party formation. And what if suddenly Dancer gets a skill that just draws or sheds hate?
          Imagine this:
          MNK WAR DRG DAN RDM WHM
          Mages in the back as usual. Melee next to the mob. Dancer sheds hate from the mages, therefore the melees are getting all the hate for themselves. WHM and RDM can Cure all they want because theyre not getting that much hate, and if they do get hate spikes, there's allways someone who can provoke, and if by some heavenly chance DAN also gets an ability for others to gain more hate on their actions, i can see the tides changing in ways no one expects.
          Personally i think this is just crazy enough to be viable.
          Brd has Hate affecting songs already, gets them through merits iirc.
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          • #80
            Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

            Sure, but is it as crazy as what i said? Nooooooooooooo.
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            • #81
              Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

              LOL, let the Dancer "Cha Cha" with the mob to get all the attentions and hold hate XD

              I hope the new jobs offers some subjob options for existing jobs as well. The ones from ToAU does not do well with /BLU, /COR or /PUP. Just imagine with Dancer has "Provoke-like" hate tool and open up the option for main-job/Dancer for tanking.
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              • #82
                Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                or just Dances that Do Different Things.

                Like a Enmity + Dance, or something. I was going to write more, but then I realized that COR has a bunch of these as skills already. Except COR is job dependent (sorta?).
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                • #83
                  Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                  Confuse can i have it? ... :D

                  Nothing like a mob running away like crazy and hitting itself silly.
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                  • #84
                    Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                    Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                    Confuse can i have it? ... :D
                    Nothing like a mob running away like crazy and hitting itself silly.

                    No do not add confuse to this game please dear god. Why you ask? Imagine a bcnm vs a dancer type who can confuse party members... think of the noobs.
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                    • #85
                      Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                      Uh, no, I couldn't sleep that mob, it confused me ...
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                      • #86
                        Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                        I have to stop being sarcastic.

                        Forums are no fun! Cant use my sarcastic accent as well.

                        Hmph!
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                        • #87
                          Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                          Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                          I have to stop being sarcastic.
                          Forums are no fun! Cant use my sarcastic accent as well.
                          Hmph!

                          Oh no it just has been brought up seriously so many times I see confuse should be added that I just scream No.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                            Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                            Right now only THF has the ability to play around directly with hate, not counting the regular provoke.
                            Add Lv.60+, any melee with /THF to that list.


                            Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                            Both TA and Provoke are the only skills i can think of that have a direct influence on hate.
                            There are probably more JAs which affect enmity significantly, but these came to mind:
                            - Sentinel
                            - Rampart
                            - Warcry
                            - Last Resort
                            - Sharpshot
                            - Boost
                            - Shield Bash
                            - Weapon Bash
                            - Hide

                            If counting spells (not big damage or curing ones):
                            - Flash
                            - Stun
                            - Blind / Kurayami
                            - Sleep / Lullaby
                            - Bind
                            - Jettatura?
                            - Actinic Burst?
                            ...
                            - Sandspin >_>;
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                            yet not a mote of dust is stirred;
                            Moonlight pierces the depths of the pond,
                            leaving no trace in the water.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                              Hate and how it works.

                              The basics
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                              • #90
                                Re: Dancer new FFXI job? (attn Jei or any Japanese readers)

                                OK, but S-E doesn't use the word "hate"; it's "enmity", instead.

                                I'm a bit biased, but I like this page better (it refers to the thread you listed, anyway): Enmity
                                Bamboo shadows sweep the stars,
                                yet not a mote of dust is stirred;
                                Moonlight pierces the depths of the pond,
                                leaving no trace in the water.

                                - Mugaku

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