This is kinda cool

[Malacite]

Re: This is kinda cool

Yeah this feature's been around for a while and was noted in the update notes... rtfm?


All bashing aside, I would like it if SE would fix this command already though. See, you can name your Macro Books so you know which they are, but when you use /macro you still need to type in the book number. It won't accept whatever name you've given it which is really annoying.

So in the mean time the only solution I guess is to add a Number next to the name of each of my books... (I have 1 book set for each of the 20 jobs)

[Solymir]

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So could you run a single Loop of macro's off of the CTRL+1?

*stuff*

like to get you back to your original gear and what not?

Each Macro will have to be started by you. For example...

Alt +1
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/macro Set 5

Alt +3
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/ws Whatever <t>


The /macro commands will take you to another book or set but you still have to manually start another Macro.

[Vyuru]

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Each Macro will have to be started by you. For example...

Alt +1
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/macro Set 5

Alt +3
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/equip Whatever
/ws Whatever <t>


The /macro commands will take you to another book or set but you still have to manually start another Macro.

Yeah, which is why in the example above I'd have it all tied into the keys, so use alt 1 for the entire equipment swap/spell for a particular spell, say Frenetic Rip for instance, instead of needing to swap over to alt 3.

Consistency in macros is very important to me, else my brain implodes and people don't get healed or mobs get smacked with Dia II instead of Aero II.

[Ellipses]

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Something I've been curious about, but haven't bothered to test, is whether you can interrupt your own macro chains if you set loops up like that.

Obviously, you can if there are any /wait lines in there. But if it's all /equip blabla, /macro set X, and the action (/ws, /ma, etc.) itself, does it all process fast enough that you can't hit the macro the second time before the first one gets to its bottom line?

[Balfree]

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A good way to cancel any macro is to go into heal mode but im sure you know about that, and i dont think it would actually cancel the next lines in the chain.. hm.

[Solymir]

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Yeah, which is why in the example above I'd have it all tied into the keys, so use alt 1 for the entire equipment swap/spell for a particular spell, say Frenetic Rip for instance, instead of needing to swap over to alt 3.

Consistency in macros is very important to me, else my brain implodes and people don't get healed or mobs get smacked with Dia II instead of Aero II.

I agree, the only reason I used Alt +3 was to make sure what I was trying to say didn't get confusing.

Something I've been curious about, but haven't bothered to test, is whether you can interrupt your own macro chains if you set loops up like that.



Obviously, you can if there are any /wait lines in there. But if it's all /equip blabla, /macro set X, and the action (/ws, /ma, etc.) itself, does it all process fast enough that you can't hit the macro the second time before the first one gets to its bottom line?

I would think you could interrupt your first macro if you were fast enough on the second. Which could suck if you're all hopped on caffeine and nervous about taking that last 2% off of that HNM, and you're the only one left standing, and everyone is yelling at you in party chat and the adrenaline is flowing.....

Wait a minute I thought you meant manually interrupt the first with a second. My bad. You cannot create a macro that starts another macro. The /macro set and /macro book commands only change sets or books, you have to manually hit your second macro.

[Armando]

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The game processes all the lines damned near instantaneously. I doubt there's any way for you to interrupt a macro that doesn't have /waits or target confirmations. Even if it was humanly possible to do it, the UI isn't responsive enough to accept another macro input that soon.

I've never had incomplete gear changes when using the same "equip all gear in this macro and then switch me to another macro set containing the ability o be used" technique described above. Been using it to do Vorpal Blades for months.

[Ellipses]

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I've never had incomplete gear changes when using the same "equip all gear in this macro and then switch me to another macro set containing the ability o be used" technique described above. Been using it to do Vorpal Blades for months.

Should have been more clear; this is the sort of thing I was thinking about. Not intentionally interrupting your own macro chain, but accidentally screwing yourself out of parts of the chain by banging the keys too quickly.

And that's what I figured, but you never know.

[Vyuru]

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Should have been more clear; this is the sort of thing I was thinking about. Not intentionally interrupting your own macro chain, but accidentally screwing yourself out of parts of the chain by banging the keys too quickly.

Ah, in that case I kinda know of something.

Going from my +hmp set to my melee set when /nin does cause in interruption in the way I have it setup. It's something like:

/equip main "sword"
/equip neck "neck"
/equip waist "waist"
/equip sub "sword"

The last line will say that it cannot be executed and stop, unknown to me if I list something else after it if it would stop that as well.

[Armando]

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The problem is that the second weapon is being equipped too fast. You need to have a weapon in the main hand before you can equip one in the sub hand, and that second weapon is being equipped before the game realizes you already have one in the main hand.

Something similar happens if you do this
/equip body A
/equip body B
/equip body A

The last line will fail, presumably because the server thinks you still have A equipped. On the other hand,
/equip body A
/equip body B
/equip body C
Gives no errors and all 3 lines execute without problems.

EDIT: P.S. I'm not expert on what's checked serverside and what's checked clientside but for the purposes of stats on equipment, there's no lag, so it's probably checked on the client. You can have
/equip slot Something
/ja Somethingelse <t>

And the equipment's stats will count towards the JA you just used even though the JA occurs only fractions of a second afterwards. I've verified this myself using Guardian's Ring and Shield Bash. You can also have
/ma Flash <t>
/equip head "Walahra Turban"

And the Haste will count towards Flash. I don't think there's any possible situation where you could equip soemthing just before performing an action and not have its stats count.

[Celeal]

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I think you can select the Book # as current (selected) Book, and select Set # as current (selected) set within the current Book. However, that /macro command does not execute any script within the current Set. A single Set contains ALT-1, ALT-2..... CTRL-1, CTRL-2 ... etc, slots where your actual script is located.

Added:
Oh ding.... I don't notice there is a page-2 while I was trying to reply ShepardG's post on page 1..... m(_ _)m

[EternalMalachi]

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Awe.....I can't get to site due to web security blocks. -,-'

get them down on paper, perfectly done, and then I go into game and retype all of them in game macros.

This is exactly what I had planned to do today at work. -,-'

EDIT: Well, turns out I CAN get to the wikipage, if I bust out my PS3 and monitor and log in as a guest. Now I just wish I had not left my keyboard in the car. ^.^`

[Lmnop]

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This has a lot of issues.

First off: YES, you can unintentionally cut off macros. But I had this problem before I started using the /macro commands. Oftentimes, going from my "tank" set back to DD swaps, I'll open up my menu at some point and see I have a Phalanx ring still equipped. This is because the 6th and last line of my DD swap is /equip ring2 "Ecphoria Ring". This is more the game's interface issues than the /macro command. I'm used to seeing the game do full equip swaps but dropping the action appended to the end on a regular basis. Which leads us to...

Getting lost in your macros. This happens to me all the time. I'm taking suggestions if you have them. Having the same macro (alt+3, for example) change what set you're on multiple times can get wacky.
With layout:
home set: alt+0 performs WS gear changes and sends me to WS set.
WS set: alt +0 performs Raging Rush and sends me back to home set.

I'd mash alt+0 (lag typically means I need to mash macros to make them happen even once). I end up not only using Raging Rush, I end up back in the WS set. Now I have hate and my Utsusemi macro isn't doing anything!!!! Oh. It's because i'm back on the WS set.


Currently, I have my macros set up as follows:
set 1: Warrior. This is WAR JAs and my 3 WSs of choice. It also has my gear swap macros (I have 6 macros that do nothing but swap gear based on situation). I then have one macro labeled "SJ" which is just a "/macro set X" where X is a number I change based off of current SJ.

I have a different macro set reserved for every SJ, all of which have alt+1 dedicated to sending me back to my WAR set. They have SJ specific equip swaps (namely, /thf) and all the abilities you'd expect to see tied to those abilities.

It works pretty well, but I warn: Provoking and then scrambling to your SJ section for your defensive tricks (seigan/third eye; utsusemis) can cause a muck. a Gunpod killed me once because I let myself get a bit panicked and found myself on the wrong macro set trying to make this transition.

[Vyuru]

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I'm thinking of having one key be a "home" macro if you will.

So assuming that where you start your macro stuff is macro set 1, Alt 1 for all macro sets that you use on say, Warrior is:

Back

/macro set 1

Assuming that you don't branch out into other books that is.

[EternalMalachi]

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I made it so my JAs are ALL on the same main set up, as well as my primary WS, Stun, DrainI/II, Aspir, SleepII, Weapon Bash. I change sets for full list of WS, or main spells such as full Absorb line and main use dark magics. I have a line for all my elemental spells, but since I RARELY if EVER use 'em, I don't have anything linking to or from it. I have it on the last set so from Main line I can just move up manually if I ever had the urge. ^.^`