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  • Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

    Just been trying to solo the Bastok 5-1 mission fight. The plan i have been doing so far is Casting my buffs (Metalic Body Refueling and The shadow spell, unsure of spelling) I then pop a yag drink and start walking up. once im at the door i cast cocoon, then head to the main NM and cast Sheep Song to sleep him and the 2 mages next to him.

    I then proceed to beat on the mages till their gone, then aim for the main dude. Every now and then i cast Battle Dance to kill the spawning warriors around me and rebuff and heal myself when i can. So far 0/3. Every time i go i take 4 high pots 3-4 yags and about 5-6 hi ethers.

    I can take about 1/3 hp from him before my mp finaly gives up and im down and out.
    Anything im doing wrong? On the wiki page it does say "confirmed solo with BLU/NIN" Have asked a 75blue on my server and it is possible acording to them. Only video reference i can find is a solo atempt.

    This is something i would love to try and do before my ls takes over. This would be a great achievment for me personly. Something i would love to try achive.

    BTW i am a 58 Galka. When capped to 50 i have around 309MP
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  • #2
    Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

    Not a BLU but I've taken mine to 37, maybe I can help. What spells do you have set? Which ones are you using to kill the mages and damage the archlich? What weapons, gear, traits and food are you using? Which of the buffs that you mentioned are you keeping up 24/7? Are you sleeping the Archlich when your MP starts to run low to get some healing time?
    Last edited by Armando; 01-23-2009, 01:29 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

      I am using mostly my AF for lack of better gear. Not much cash or way to make good cash. weapons i have are bloody Blade in main and Kilij in secondery.

      The buffs im atempting to keep are mainly shadows and cocoon, and refueling if i have spare mp. The spells set are:

      Metalic body
      wild Carrot
      Cocoon
      bludgeon
      jet stream
      head butt
      refueling
      sheep song
      chaotic gaze
      blank gaze
      bomb toss
      Battle dance

      Spells i cast while trying to kill the main is bludgeon and headbutt. The odd chaotic and blank gaze now and then and recast of my buffs. Jet stream and bomb toss are there for when i have high tp. I SC jet stream for fusuin and bomb toss for fire mb on the main and killing of the warriors.

      Havent tried sleeping the main for mp gain back, as it has a 15 min time limit, and from what i have seen from the atempt video, there is no time to heal.

      (PS, apoligioes for my spelling and grammer.)
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      • #4
        Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

        Wouldn't it make more sense to just sleep the ancient sorcerers, and later the knights and go straight to killing Archlich?
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        • #5
          Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

          Wouldn't it make more sense to just sleep the ancient sorcerers, and later the knights and go straight to killing Archlich?
          I kill them because it makes it easier to kill the warriors instead of using more mp to keep sleeping them as they continuasly spawn no matter what.

          The warriors only have about 80hp, so casting battle dance kills all the warriors around me off, instead of using more mp to sleep them.
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          • #6
            Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

            Originally posted by Vildar View Post
            I kill them because it makes it easier to kill the warriors instead of using more mp to keep sleeping them as they continuasly spawn no matter what.
            They only continually spawn if you keep killing them. Thats why parties don't touch them and go straight for the NM.

            It might make a difference if you expend MP fighting the sorcerers, probably not if you don't though.
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            • #7
              Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

              How quickly do you kill the mages? Like Mhurron said, you may be spending too much effort on them.

              You're also likely wasting far too much MP in the SC+MB. Jet Stream is a whopping 47 MP, Bomb Toss is 42. That's 89 - Enough for 5 and a half Bludgeons. MP efficiency is clearly a key issue here. I would use Seraph Blade at 200% TP (that's when it's best - try not to go too far over 200 because you'll waste TP), and simply make Liquefaction with Bludgeon without any MB. You can equip Cursed Sphere and Sound Blast to get Magic Attack Bonus - that'll increase your Seraph Blade damage by 20%.

              Are you using food? You should try +MP food and +MP rings to try to maximize your MP pool, and Au Laits to help keep you healed. Also, are you using Regen/Refresh from Fields of Valor? You could also add Auto Regen to that if you have enough points left over.

              How long do you last before you die? While the fight may be long, that doesn't mean you'll necessarily run out of time if you sleep the mobs and take a knee. You should strongly consider Clear Mind in that case - you could get back 85 MP in 1 minute.

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              • #8
                Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                I think that the buffs from FoV would dissapear as you enter. If I remember correctly anyways.
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                • #9
                  Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                  Killing one mage takes 2-3 bludgens, The battle is at a lvl 50 cap, so i only have 30 points to use. Auto refresh is no option their. As far as i know, getting auto refresh from fields of valor only works while i stay in that area. As soon as i zone that effect is gone.

                  The warrios, no matter how many is around me all die in one shot of battle dance, if i was to wait for them to spawn and sleep then that would waste mp to sleep them again when they come awake. they dont stay asleep to long. I did try leave them asleep the first run but they just kept coming out of sleep to fast.

                  Havent timed myself properly, but i feel i last around 6 mins before i drop.

                  Food i have been using defense food fish mithkabobs, and almost all my gear bar 3 is mp enhancment of some sort.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                    Defense food is a mistake - Cocoon is already a Defense overkill. There comes a point where adding more Defense doesn't help nearly as much, and for mobs as weak as these, you hit that point with Cocoon alone and then some. Try MP food.

                    As for the points, removing Jet Stream and Bomb Toss would free up 7 points. Clear Mind and Magic Attack Bonus only cost 3 points each to make. If you take the Archlich down to 1/3 in 6 minutes, then at the rate you fight you should be done with him in 9; you SHOULD have ample time to sleep him and a pair of warriors and take a knee.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                      Thats a bad typo on my part, i ment to say i take 1/3 hp off him in 6 mins.

                      At the moment i have no money, so im going to find a way to get some back, and give it a re try with this advice. As i have said, i have been told it can be done, and i would like to achieve it.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                        Isn't Jet Stream a piercing attack?

                        Wouldn't it make more sense to just Sheep Song the minions and then rotate Bludgeon and Headbutt on the Arch Lich?
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                        • #13
                          Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                          I think its completely awesome that you are trying to do this.

                          I myself am leveling BLU, at 18 now, and plan on doing the Rank 3 dragon fight solo. I read that it was possible so I'm going to keep trying until I get it.

                          I will be following your quest to do this, your a role model! Maybe I can follow in your footsteps shortly.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                            Allow me to elaborate.


                            Bludgeon only costs about 18 MP IIRC, and headbutt is 12. Both have about a 12 second timer if I'm not mistaken. Bludgeon, in addition to being a cheap 3-hit spell, is Staff-type Blunt which means +50% dmg to bones, and is Arcane. Arcana and Undead are opposed, so you get the monster correlation bonus on top of that.

                            This makes Bludgeon your ideal MP to damage attack. Headbutt should be your secondary attack, largely to keep it from using any nasty magic but also to keep your shadows up and lessen the damage you take.

                            If you use Azure Lore, all your spells are basically cast as though they had 350 TP behind them (yes for some weird reason it was discovered to be 350) so the stun length on Headbutt should be fairly long. Bludgeon will also hit like a truck.

                            The main thing here is those ice spikes. You absolutely need to avoid getting paralyzed or blinded (since it can do both) so eyedrops are going to be a must-have here if you're going /NIN. I would also actually avoid using melee at all and going with pure spellcasting here, maybe drawing your weapons purely for parrying purposes. You don't want to feed the NM anymore TP than necessary.


                            Also, as a side thought, you could maybe go /RDM as well for fast cast and aquaveil (or WHM for -na spells) which would make keeping the minions slept easier and give you a chance to rest for MP.


                            Finally there's the matter of food. IMO, it's a tough call between Sushi and +MP. A bigger MP pool will mean a few extra hits, but then if you don't want to be missing any hits from bludgeon either.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Mission 5-1 solo, Actualy possible?

                              No time to post now.

                              Blunt damage is +25% to Bones, not 50%. Bludgeon is H2H damage, not blunt. The bonus is only +12.5%. Jet Stream is Blunt, not Piercing. I doubt he'll need sushi as BC mobs tend to have weak stats, just a lot of HP.

                              EDIT: Also, Bludgeon is 16 MP, not 18, and it doesn't hit harder with Azure Lore because TP increases Bludgeon's accuracy (which again probably isn't real issue here.)
                              The main thing here is those ice spikes. You absolutely need to avoid getting paralyzed or blinded (since it can do both) so eyedrops are going to be a must-have here if you're going /NIN. I would also actually avoid using melee at all and going with pure spellcasting here, maybe drawing your weapons purely for parrying purposes. You don't want to feed the NM anymore TP than necessary.
                              He can't afford to drop his damage output by not having normal swings or Seraph Blade. He's already running out of MP trying to kill the boss with both things combined, cutting his damage will just strain his MP more or cause him to time out. It's going to use TP several times no matter what you do, and it's not like they're anything truly gamebreaking like a critted Sickle Slash.
                              Last edited by Armando; 01-23-2009, 07:15 PM.

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