Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

[Kholdstare]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

And if I wanted to DD, I'd be a DRG, MNK, DRK, RNG, BLM... When did people get the idea that BLU can outdamage jobs that are designed from the ground up to DD? They can't. Get a parser. BLU can do a decent amount of damage while also filling other roles; or they can solo pretty damn well (although exp rates for solo remain slow, BLU can handle mobs that would kill other soloers).



BLU's strength is its versatility. If you're not using that, you're only playing half the job. Why should you expect that to be effective?

A WHM is going to be a healer in every party they join. A NIN is going to be a tank in almost every party they join. A DRG is going to be a DD in every party they join. A BRD is going to be a supporter in every party they join. That's because those jobs are highly specialized for their respective roles. BLU isn't. BLU can do something different in every party they join (well, they have to repeat eventually, but you know what I mean).

In fact, BLU *is* an awesome main healer; they're the only healer that can get Conserve MP and Auto-Refresh at the same time. While still keeping Divine Seal and -na spells, even. They're also an excellent backup healer while still doing a moderate amount of damage, and they have some unique debuffs even RDM can't match. So please stop spamming Bludgeon and learn to use the full capabilities of the job. (Not addressed to any one person, but to the DDBLU community in general.)

I'm not saying BLU is a crappy main healer or tank. I'm saying that they're not a main healer or a tank if the person playing it doesn't want them to be.

Hell, you're saying that people are pigeonholing BLU into a DD role. I say that they can just as easily be pigeonholed into a healer role, same as SMN. SMN's pretty damn versatile itself, but do people ever invite them for anything other than main heal before 65 or 70? No. They're invited as Main Heals, and are basically instructed to only use Titan and/or Garuda, assuming they have those BPs. It's not as prevalent now with BPs being split into Rage and Ward, but I still don't think it's what people have in mind when they pick the job.

Personally, I would sub WHM if asked, or make the offer if we need a main healer. Regardless of my sub, I keep Magic Fruit set to help out. But the second I advertise as a main heal, that's all I'll be invited for.

[Karinya]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

Well, I never saw that when I was leveling SMN. Yeah, I cast cures and status removing spells, quite a bit (this was before the BP change so there really wasn't a lot else to do for 50 seconds out of every minute). But I never saw one of the mythical "stop summoning, you n00b, SMN aren't supposed to summon things" parties.

I doubt if anyone's going to yell at a BLU to go sit in the back, either, except maybe on anticans or other silencega spammers. As long as you're not going to stand around not resting when you're low on MP, or using damage spells while party members are dying, I don't think anyone is going to expect you to become an imitation WHM.

But the alternative to being invited as a healer is not being invited at all because no party is forming because there aren't any healers. Do you really think that's better?

[Kholdstare]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

Well, I never saw that when I was leveling SMN. Yeah, I cast cures and status removing spells, quite a bit (this was before the BP change so there really wasn't a lot else to do for 50 seconds out of every minute). But I never saw one of the mythical "stop summoning, you n00b, SMN aren't supposed to summon things" parties.

I doubt if anyone's going to yell at a BLU to go sit in the back, either, except maybe on anticans or other silencega spammers. As long as you're not going to stand around not resting when you're low on MP, or using damage spells while party members are dying, I don't think anyone is going to expect you to become an imitation WHM.

But the alternative to being invited as a healer is not being invited at all because no party is forming because there aren't any healers. Do you really think that's better?

As I said, I would offer to play main heal, which'd most likely mean me starting up a party as a Main Heal. That, or I'd put it in my search comment until I get invited. Don't expect me to sit around with a /THF sub when plenty of healers are around, and "Main Heal, {Do you need it?}" in my seacom, though. I play the way I want first and the way I don't want second, and advertising just leads to less invites where I can play in a way that I like and more parties where I'm watching HP bars and "So and so recieves X effect" lines, bored out of my skull.

[Yoko]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

It's very simple. For my part, i sub thf most of the time (I liek big numbers and controlled hate) and i always put in my search comment /whm/war/nin/drk/thf etc...

Blu is all about being able to do anything a blu can do, so i offer my services for anything that is needed, while showing by my current subjob as i am seeking that i prefer /thf.

Blu is probably the job which can use the most subjobs, so if you want to be as good a blu as possible and dont miss out on any opportunities, get cracking on those subs, and show everyone just how good you are XD

[Malacite]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

@ . @ my LS won't stop making fun of me for going /RNG for levels 20-30.


I wish they would actually lv with me and see what that +10 accuracy does for my spells >:D

EDIT: It's so satisfying to have every mob I check (even IT) con low evade before food ^^b

[Karinya]

Re: Blue Mage - Mixed Responses

Seems like a reasonable choice to me, especially since that's prime bludgeon spamming levels. I agree with Yoko that it's good to have multiple subs available (I already had war, thf, nin, drk, and whm 37+ for other reasons before I started BLU, though, so I didn't really have to put in any effort for it).