What food to use?

[Malacite]

I'm currently a 22/11 BLU/RNG and I'm unsure what food to use exactly...


So far I've been going with Rice Dumplings for the mix of STR attack and accuracy, but it just came to my attention that Bludgeon is modified by 30% CHR.... so would Tuna sushi be a good option, for the 16% accuracy boost and +5 CHR?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: What food to use?

Boiled Tuna Head?

[Icemage]

Re: What food to use?

I think at level 22 Tuna Sushi won't do very much for you. +15% accuracy sounds great until you realize that it's only giving you around +10 ACC at that level due to low skill caps, and no extra power on your normal hits. I'd stick with the dumplings.


Icemage

[Jei]

Re: What food to use?

Rice Dumblinggggg

[Sabaron]

Re: What food to use?

Rice Dumpling. I second that. Boiled Tuna Head is ok, but you ill rarely find it. Carbonara is great if you can afford it... The Store TP +6 will help you get your WS off before you have to rest and help you keep up.

[Celeal]

Re: What food to use?

rice dumpling ftw~ attack+, str+, acc+, hMP.... nice stuff

[Taskmage]

Re: What food to use?

Aye, dumplings ftw til the 30s. Str+3 and acc+5 but also hMP+2 means you get to cast a little more.

Also, if I understand the damage equation for blue magic correctly, upping your chr to increase Bludgeon damage is like upping your chr to increase Dancing Edge damage. Secondary modifiers are just that: secondary. Point for point you're almost always going to get more return in damage from increasing your str over any other stat.

[Malacite]

Re: What food to use?

Ty Taskmage for being the ONLY one to post something relevant.

I saw the 30% mod of Bludgeon and thought Tuna sushi might help since it's acc and CHR, but I guess I'll stick to the dumplings ^^

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: What food to use?

Ty Taskmage for being the ONLY one to post something relevant.

What a back-handed compliment to insult all the others who tried to help you. -_-

Icemage: Explained the shortcomings of your Tuna Sushi idea.
Jei: Brought up Rice Dumpling--same as Taskmage.
Sabaron: Brought up Carbonara, and the practical problem of finding Boild Tuna Head.
Celeal: Explained why Rice Dumping is good.

Which one of those post was not "relevant", you ungrateful ingrate...

[Malacite]

Re: What food to use?

1) I already stated that I've been using the dumplings. I love those things

2) The Boiled Tuna Head isn't even relevant as it doesn't modify CHR


I was basically wondering if it would be good to use Tuna Sushi for the accuracy boost and CHR to help with bludgeon, or stick to the dumplings. I haven't tried pumping lots of CHR into that spell yet, so I've no idea how much of an impact it would have.

[Mog]

Re: What food to use?

I'm currently a 22/11 BLU/RNG and I'm unsure what food to use exactly...





So far I've been going with Rice Dumplings for the mix of STR attack and accuracy, but it just came to my attention that Bludgeon is modified by 30% CHR.... [B]so would Tuna sushi be a good option, for the 16% accuracy boost and +5 CHR?

I think at level 22 Tuna Sushi won't do very much for you. +15% accuracy sounds great until you realize that it's only giving you around +10 ACC at that level due to low skill caps, and no extra power on your normal hits. I'd stick with the dumplings.





Icemage

Ty Taskmage for being the ONLY one to post something relevant.



I saw the 30% mod of Bludgeon and thought Tuna sushi might help since it's acc and CHR, but I guess I'll stick to the dumplings ^^

Reading comprehension ftw. You asked a question, icemage answered it. Unless your definition of "relevant" is something completely different.

[Jei]

Re: What food to use?

Heh. Why is recommending rice dumpling irrelevant? You asked what food to use, we're giving you exactly that.

[Malacite]

Re: What food to use?

Okay, I'll admit I was being a bit of an asshole....


Sorry, really... been having a rough time lately, and that's no excuse to take it out on you people. orz

m(. _ .)m


EDIT: again, the point was would Tuna Sushi (or possibly something else I may have missed?) pump bludgeon's power and hit ratio enough to justify it over the dumplings? So far I've only gotten a marginal boost at best to my melee from the dumplings, but then sword is pretty weak IMO.

[Sabaron]

Re: What food to use?

The purpose behind Carbonara is that Blue Mage is primarily a melee damage dealer. If you've ever parsed yourself, you'll probably find that the lion's share of your damage comes from sword. Most Blue Mages do indeed spam magic, but the sword is always swinging away. DoT on BLU sword is excellent regardless of your spikes. After Chain Affinity you'll be concentrating on CASATA self-chains for which you'll require more TP. If you can accumulate TP faster, you'll have more damage output. Carbonara effectively increases the rate of accumulation of TP as most swords create 6 TP per hit and Carbonara adds 4% to that (0.24TP/hit). This allows you to keep up a little better with other melees in your party since you're casting and hitting. Carbonara also provides an attack bonus (18% 65cap@361) and HP bonus (14% cap175 @1249). The former increases your overall melee output while the latter will boost damage on HP-based Blue Nukes--the "Breath" spells. It has STR+4, again more damage, and INT-3 which is not so good, but I think is quite well paid off in terms of benefit in other areas.

[Please note the above section has been edited to incorporate information revealed later in the thread--not trying to hide error, rather to avoid confusing someone who might happen upon this post]

Of course... Tuna Sushi is not nearly as good as Tavnazian Taco for that purpose. +20 MP is a whole extra Bludgeon with a +4 DEX bonus and +1hmp. Since you'll be spamming spells and meleeing, you'll be taking hate periodically--Blue Mage has excellent defensive abilities. The Vitality and Defense bonus and Cocoon will allow you to go BLU/WAR and tank quite well. Bludgeon Damage will keep your hate quite solid and Wild Carrot when you get it is excellent. It is a bit inefficient at low-level, but the enmity generation is good as is the fact that it is not capped.

If you must eat sushi, I think that the bonus DoT from Sole Sushi on your Sword (damage that costs 0mp) completely overrides the benefits of Tuna.

An attack food like Rice Dumpling is going to get you a lot more power than CHR+5. CHR+5 translates into 1.5 damage per hit or 4.5 damage for a full-connect Bludgeon. Bludgeon cools down every 11.75 seconds so for DPS, the CHR is giving you +0.38DPS.

Blue Mage is better off with standard melee foods or Carbonara. Carbonara, however, does give a -3 penalty to Intelligence which decreases the effects of your magical blue magic a bit.

Is that enough?

[EDIT: Add]
For comparison. Let's say you eat a Rice Dumpling and have 150 Attack. That translates into +30 Attack and +3 Strength (which we'll just call +1 Attack for simplicity even though it's much more than that) for +31 Attack. Assuming you're using Nadrs (18/236) as your primary weapon. Your DPS will be 4.58 with nothing on and 5.45 with Rice Dumpling a net increase of 0.87 which is more than double the effect of +5 CHR notwithstanding the other effects of STR, the difference in ACC over Sushi, or the faster resting recovery rate (+2hmp, +2hhp).

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: What food to use?

Carbonara effectively increases the rate of accumulation of TP by 66% as most swords create 6% TP per hit and Carbonara adds 4% to that.

I'm not really sure if the OP actually deserves the benefit or is even capable of taking advantage of nuanced analysis and accurate research, but since other people do read this...

To my understanding, Carbonara provides Store TP +4, not TP +4. So, if each sword swing gives 6.0 TP, this adds 0.24 TP more per swing (assuming not using /SAM or other Store TP equipment), making it 6.24 TP.

The calculation is:

6.0 TP * (100% + 4%) = 6.24 TP

Over 10 swings, it will add 2.4 TP, for a grand total of 62.4 TP instead of 60.0 TP.

It doesn't necessarily make Carbonara a bad food for BLU, but hMP+2 and Accuracy +5 from Rice Dumpling (or even Boiled Tuna Head for a BLU who casts and rests a lot) do look more enticing than Store TP +4, at least to me.