Blu/whm main healing ;O

[Stooky]

Well, I like whm alot, but I like to melee somtimes so I was wondering how blu/whm is as a main healer. I know they have alot of buffs and other spells that can be used to assist the party and then /whm gives you up to cure III (Or cure IV not sure ;o) and many other spells. Does anyone have any experience main healing on a blu/whm? I am just curious becuase I need to just find a job I really enjoy someday... ;o

[Taskmage]

Re: Blu/whm main healing ;O

I've never actually seen a blu main heal, I imagine since most people that take up the job have other things in mind for the job. Looking over the spell lists, I would say that blu wouldn't be an effective main healer until 58 when it gets Magic Fruit. That's the first healing spell you get from your main job that isn't self-only.

Before that you can still make a fine backup healer with /whm, but with only Cure until 22 and Cure II until 42, main-healing seems like it would be a harrowing experience for all involved. Summoners get by like that I guess, but they have a lot more mp than you and can offer more in terms of protective buffs. I guess you could give it a try, but I think it would be a challenge to say the least.

Even without /whm, Healing Breeze makes you a fine addition to the healing team, especially if your main healer is a rdm and doesn't have access to Curaga. Like most of our magical type spells, it's not as potent as the whm version for a similar cost, but even at the efficiency that it has it's still quite useful. I'm in the late 20s with blu right now and I'm finding Healing Breeze isn't making much of a difference anymore, but at 30 I have the option of getting Divine Seal from whm ... though I think I'll opt for Sneak Attack unless my static decides to target something known for AoEs.

[VZX]

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I heard Magic Fruit with /WHM can heal you above 500 HP.
Very nice for that 'low' mp cost

[eva00r]

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BLU/WHM can be a main heal after lv 58 and we do a very good job on that. Because we have Auto-Refresh, Auto-Regen, Sleep Resistance and Magic Fruit (aka Cure 3.5).

Gears that you need for this task.
- Light/Dark Staff
- HP to MP conversion rings
- MP Boost gears
- Lots of cookies
- Vermillion Cloak (Optional)

[Taskmage]

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Ah, that's a good point. I forgot blu can get Auto-Refresh for the first time at level 58.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Blue_Ma...s#Auto_Refresh

[LadyPeorth]

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Capped Healing Magic, +alot of MND, +Healing Magic if you can get it, and you'll make WHMs fume at your Magic Fruit

[Jei]

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I group with Blu main healing once in cap terrigan. The blu did excellent job at it. Definitely a viable choice.

[BurningPanther]

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Oh, goodness, don't show off BLU/WHM's healing capabilities. Next thing you know, that's ALL people will expect BLU to do. Then the time will come where you'll log on, and all you'll get is /tells saying "<party><Caedarva Mire><Do you need it?>main heal plz"

An awful future indeed.

[Icemage]

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I don't see what's wrong with having a BLU/WHM main heal, to be honest. It might be a bit sketchy for a while in the early/mid levels, but:

- BLU don't need to be main healers to make it past level 42 (at which point they get Cure III from /WHM and can be acceptable main healers).

- Magic Fruit is the spell Cure IV always wanted to be but never was. It has simply ungodly range, and heals a lot of HP.

- Auto-Refresh as a trait is nice.

Blue mage is a really versatile job. Sure, they're not the best healers, but they're no slouches either, and I don't see why anyone would simply pigeonhole them one way or the other. It's not necessary - they're acceptable DDs, and acceptable healers.


Icemage

[BurningPanther]

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Nothing wrong with a BLU healing, they can do it well. But so can RDM...

...and how much more common is it that you're expected to main heal in a party? It's becoming more and more common place nowadays. BLU starts to show healing prowess, and that's all the ten trillion DDs out there are gonna want out of it.

[Icemage]

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...and how much more common is it that you're expected to main heal in a party? It's becoming more and more common place nowadays. BLU starts to show healing prowess, and that's all the ten trillion DDs out there are gonna want out of it.

How often have you complained about prima donna WHMs who won't party without a ninja tank, or SMNs who refuse to main heal just because it doesn't fit their world view of the job? This is the same thing.

I'm not saying every BLU should immediately go out and sub WHM. But if the situation calls for it, then it calls for it. Refusing to recognize that does nothing but limit your party options.

Let's face it; yes, BLU/THF is an acceptable DD. But that's all it is - acceptable. It doesn't do tremendously more than other melees in an XP party, and unlike other melees, it requires a hefty dose of MP recovery in the form of Evoker's Roll/Refresh/Mage's Ballad to stay productive, which is unpleasant for the COR/RDM/BRD to deal with. In fact, the only thing unusual about BLU as a melee is that they can form their own skillchain and magic burst off of it, and that they can always pull out Chain Affinity when necessary to complete a skillchain; I don't see how this is a selling point for BLU.

Particularly in these times of pinball-hate TP burn parties, do you really think BLU/THF is going to be a popular first choice for a party slot? I know it wouldn't be for me.


Icemage

[Taskmage]

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Actually, in these TP-burning times when a refresher is practically assumed to help the healer keep up with the party and hate control is often a moot subject, I would consider a blu to be a good pick for a party regardless of the sub. The omnipresence of refreshers largely negates the handicap of mp dependency in conjunction with sanction refresh and blu's natural auto-refresh trait, assuming the player knows how to pace themselves. After the pick up Diamondhide at 68, the stoneskin effect in addition to the shadows everyone's already sporting end up negating a lot of damage when attacks are split between a few players.

Personally, I like a little variety in a job, and blu hasn't disappointed me a bit with its shifting strengths as it levels up. Right now I'm shifting out of the tanking role and focusing more on DD, though I'm always keeping an eye out for gear that will help me tank effectively should the situation call for it. When I grow out of the stage when I can even pretend to be a tank and am able to main heal instead, I'll be perfectly happy to do so provided that's not the only thing I'm ever invited to do. Honestly, I like main healing just fine; I may even go back and take whm to 75, but let's face it, it's hardly the most exciting position in a party.

I don't think blu will have a problem getting "stuck" with the main healer mantle because they already have an established and well recognized role in parties as a DD, in contrast to smn that didn't really seem to fit anywhere for a long time and got pushed into healing by default. Blm isn't terribly different as a main healer than smn, but how often do you see them with a light staff in their hands?

[Balfree]

I was RDM main healer in Boyada Tree and we had a BLU/whm taru, turns out i barely needed to use my cures, just keep everyone buffed and regen'd.
I had freedom to haste every single person in the pt, even myself, and cast enfeebles all the time, so if it helps me perform better, ill say yes to BLU healer, they can do it while dealing damage too, which is awesome imo. I dont believe in that particular situation a BLU would have been enough, but she certainly made the party that much better and imo thats all that matters.

but how often do you see them with a light staff in their hands?

I love my light staff ^^

<- BLM main, but i realise im the best BLM around, hard to top

[Taskmage]

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I love my light staff ^^
<- BLM main, but i realise im the best BLM around, hard to top

XD Ok, I'll accept that the rare exception of a blm so uber they carry light staff and cast Cure of their own volition might exist, but in general it is a wrestling match getting most blms to even backup heal, so if I ever see one get asked to main heal and accept, I will definately take a screenshot for posterity.

[Jugil]

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Personally, I prefer the support/healer role. I'd like to main heal BLU when it becomes feasible for me to do so (BLU = 25).

I loved it on WHM, but it got boring in the age of NIN tanks ;;. I remember almost 3 years ago when the only tanks you could find were WARs. Healing was exciting then .

I've main healed on BRD, BLM, and SMN; and enjoyed it. I'd definitely love to give BLU main heal a try.