How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

[Leillia]

Sorry for asking. But how far do i have to get in COP to get the 40-60 spells, is it only ch2?

[Taskmage]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

You don't have to do any of the CoP missions to get blue magic in the 40-60 range, but you'll be forced to learn Frightful Roar and Radiant Breath from level 70ish mobs. To learn them from Taurus in Sacrarium and Wyverns at Riverne - Site #B01, you'll need to complete up to mission 4-3 and 4-2 respectively.

[Leillia]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Thank you

[Liquidedust]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

You don't have to do any of the CoP missions to get blue magic in the 40-60 range, but you'll be forced to learn Frightful Roar and Radiant Breath from level 70ish mobs. To learn them from Taurus in Sacrarium and Wyverns at Riverne - Site #B01, you'll need to complete up to mission 4-3 and 4-2 respectively.

Wouldn't Jettatura be considered CoP only since it is learned from Hippogryphs which only reside in Rivenere.

To get access there (site #A) you need to have defeated Minotaur and unlocked 2-5 (Mammet Battle) through some cutscenes.

[Icemage]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Yes. Jettatura is from Hippogryphs in Riverna Site #A01 and #B01 only, and it's the only way to learn it.

Theoretically you can learn Awful Eye (Bugard) and Refueling (Cluster) in Besieged, so long as you catch the right beastmen attacking at the right time.

And of course you need to be into chapter 8 of CoP to learn any of the 72+ spells from the Lumorians.


Icemage

[eva00r]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Well, select only useful spells to learn. You don't have to get them all. Even if you have all the spells, you will find that 80% of your spells are rarely used or might not even get setup. From 40ish-60, I recommend you to get only these spells and you're good enough to play.

- Any spells that give refresh points, kinda 4-5 of them.
- Mandibular Bite (44)
- Sickle Slash (48)
- Refueling (48)
- Magic Fruit (58)
- Death Scissor (60)
- Dimensional Death (60)

[Haggai]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Theoretically you can learn Awful Eye (Bugard) and Refueling (Cluster) in Besieged, so long as you catch the right beastmen attacking at the right time.

Shouldn't you be able to get Refueling from Sweeping Clusters in Mount Zhayolm? Unfortunately they are 73-75, so you'd have to get it late.

[Icemage]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Shouldn't you be able to get Refueling from Sweeping Clusters in Mount Zhayolm? Unfortunately they are 73-75, so you'd have to get it late.

Yes, you "could", but... ow. Clusters are among the most dangerous base enemy types, since they have so many potent special attacks.


Icemage

[Minaku]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Well, select only useful spells to learn. You don't have to get them all. Even if you have all the spells, you will find that 80% of your spells are rarely used or might not even get setup. From 40ish-60, I recommend you to get only these spells and you're good enough to play.

- Any spells that give refresh points, kinda 4-5 of them.
- Mandibular Bite (44)
- Sickle Slash (48)
- Refueling (48)
- Magic Fruit (58)
- Death Scissor (60)
- Dimensional Death (60)

If you want to play this way, that's fine. But don't actually tell other people to half-ass their jobs like it's good advice. Those spells are fine if you just want to be a typical crappy one-dimensional blu that has given the job a less-than-great reputation as just another DD, but one that requires refresh.

Our unique strength lies in our flexibility to take different roles in a party. Perhaps you could argue that a few spells aren't used much, but to say only the above spells are needed from 40-60 just makes me cringe. Blu's like that are the reason my parties are so surprised when I turn out to be actually useful in exp.

Do CoP. All the way to sea. It sucks at times and can be frustrating, but it's worth it, especially if you plan to be a decent blue mage.

[Drive]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Blu's like that are the reason my parties are so surprised when I turn out to be actually useful in exp.

And what do you do that otherwise that setup doesn't(other then frightful roar/enfeeble)? Because I'm interested to see how I wouldn't be useful in exp.

[Blowy]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

Yes, you "could", but... ow. Clusters are among the most dangerous base enemy types, since they have so many potent special attacks.
Icemage

Make friends with a 75 BST. They can handle these clusters pretty easily.

[eva00r]

Re: How far in cop do i have to get, to get 40-60 spells

If you want to play this way, that's fine. But don't actually tell other people to half-ass their jobs like it's good advice. Those spells are fine if you just want to be a typical crappy one-dimensional blu that has given the job a less-than-great reputation as just another DD, but one that requires refresh.

Our unique strength lies in our flexibility to take different roles in a party. Perhaps you could argue that a few spells aren't used much, but to say only the above spells are needed from 40-60 just makes me cringe. Blu's like that are the reason my parties are so surprised when I turn out to be actually useful in exp.

Do CoP. All the way to sea. It sucks at times and can be frustrating, but it's worth it, especially if you plan to be a decent blue mage.

Half-ass their jobs ? No. Admit it, a lot of blu spells are useless. Why ? because you cannot use them all at the same time. You have only freaking limited 45 points to spend, and with that, only 10ish spells could be used.

Different roles are mostly depending on your subjobs AND equipments/gears, not the extra never-to-get-set spells. /WHM to be a healer /WAR to be a tanker and /THF or /NIN to be a DD.

If you don't want some shitty spells, you can skip them. No one will ever force you to cast Mysterious Light or Pinecone Bomb to make them surprise.

As for CoP, it's good to do but it's not required to do until you need to learn a lot of Lumorian spells later on.