/THF Subjob question

[IgotGAME]

I was wondering who here has a /THF they are using on BLU?

What kind of damage can you do with SA in a Skillchain?


Like something like this:

"Setup"
/ja "Chain Affinity" <me>
/wait 1
/ja "Burst Affinity" <me>
/wait 2
/ws "Red Lotus Blade" <t>

"Finisher"
/ja "Sneak Attack"
/wait 1
/ma "Jet Stream" <t>
/wait 4
/ma "Bomb Toss" <t>

(I just put Red Lotus Blade in the setup to simplify this thread...normally I wouldn't have any WS in the setup. I could do Red Lotus Blade myself and then do the finisher.)


Would that work? Does anyone with /THF use anything like that? What kind of damage would Jet Stream do?

[Jei]

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that is on weak mob by the way... done by 60blu friend of mine

I PTwith level 52Blu/Thf his SA uppercut was doing consistent 600-700 damage if i remember correctly. very impressive.

[IgotGAME]

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Wow...

so is it actually better to do CASATA one move than to do a Skillchain with the move in it?

Would a standard CASA move at lvl 50 do more damage than a Skillchain with CASA in it?

[Jei]

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hmm i don't quite understand your question. But if SATA increases your physical blue magic damage, why not use it to close skillchain. That will increase your skillchain damage too.

[Mycraell]

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Wow...

so is it actually better to do CASATA one move than to do a Skillchain with the move in it?

Would a standard CASA move at lvl 50 do more damage than a Skillchain with CASA in it?

There is no reason that CASA on its own should do more damage than a skillchain with CASA in it. Not only do you have the damage from a weaponskill in the latter version, but you get the additional damage of having created a chain.

In fact, there is no reason that i can see to even do CA if not doing a skillchain. And i think the image posted above in order to illustrate the damage achievable with SATA and blue magic was in fact part of a skillchain.

[Icemage]

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As far as I know, Trick Attack doesn't increase damage at all when using /THF. All it does is assign hate to whoever you're standing behind. It's Sneak Attack that's doing all the damage there I think.


Icemage

[IgotGAME]

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Man I really need to level THF and try this out.

[Zempten]

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CA at 100% TP with SA helps with your DMG, I achieve 900+ DMG on exp Tourmas at lvl 61 BLU/30THF

Here is a screenshot of me at 60 in Valley of Sorrows.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Zempten/SADD.jpg

We had a 62 in the PT, hence why the exp was kind of shotty

[IgotGAME]

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^ in that picture above...


Where did the first part of the Fusion Skillchain go?? At first I thought he just did a one hit sneak attack, but then I see Fusion for 500+ HP, but where is the first part of the skillchain? I don't see any weapon skills used on that whole screen shot. Am I missing something?

Also, does THF get dual wield or double attack or something? you seem to be hitting the enemy a lot..almost like a NIN.

[piroko]

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So what would be better? WS -> CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst or straight forward CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst?

[Jei]

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probably filtered.

your CA will not make skillchain on it's own. so you need WS first.
And without skillchain you can't burst

[IgotGAME]

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So what would be better? WS -> CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst or straight forward CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst?

You can burst just after CASA(TA)?? You need to skillchain first right? The only way to skillchain is you have to use a WS so the first thing you posted would be correct if I am thinking right.

[piroko]

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SC with another person, I ment

[IgotGAME]

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SC with another person, I ment

yea that may be a good idea so you could use your TP on your physical spell instead of using it for your WS.

Man I can only imagine what a 300%TP SACA Mandibular Bite would be doing right now for me

I need to lvl THF tonight

[Zempten]

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I have it filtered because I would rather rely on actually seeing the guy doing the WS then relying on the message mainly because I think it helps me concentrate more when I'm playing.

I'm hitting alot because I'm using some accuracy+% food and also wearing some accuracy gear. Still rying to find the best balance of accuracy and attk/str.

No, THFs don't get double attack or dual wield, but they do get Triple Attack. However you can't get that via THF as a SJ. I can only be aquired by having THF as main.

If MP permits, I can MB after ending a SC for anywhere from 288 with Radiant Breath on Fusion SC or Eyes on Me for 300+(don't remeber the exact number) on Gravitation SC. The timing is tricky for a MB though.

Double Post Edited:

So what would be better? WS -> CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst or straight forward CASA(TA) -> MA + Burst?

Personally, I feel any Sword WS is weak on exp type mobs. So therefore I think it's a bad idea to self SC. I believe you do more DMG with that 100% TP and a SA.

Also if your attempting to MB afterwards, you won't have time to do a BA and land your MB(I think it's Burst Affinity, no?) after your Physical Blue Magic. So it's best to use CA and BA, and then go for a SA + Physical Blue Magic and then go for your Magical Blue Magic.

So, I think the latter options is better basically.