No love for Blue Warrior?

[Awilo]

I found it funny that when I did a search...I am the only blu/war on Bismarck server. Yet I am lvl 13 and I have been soloing even match and T mobs rather easily, I can kill a T sheep with beastkiller and have more than 60% hp left and something like 50% mp left or even fought a T Akhaba and ended up not losing any hp (I used metallic body, cocoon, quickly followed by sprout smack and sand spin).

Somehow I think /war is underrated by the Blue community or am I seeing too much in nothing? but well maybe it's because I am an elvaan also... and I think the role of warrior is more fitting to my race since I already have high vit (2nd vit and highest vit are Galka) and high str.

I guess I could always mention it:

currently lvl 13/06 war:
HP 245/245
MP 83/83

Yeah I know my mp are gimped but I didn't see the need to spam spells yet, generally one spell is enough to change the tides of battles (wild oats and sprout smack specifically, queasyshroom seems to work quite well on beastmen Orcs, Goblins etc...)

[durecellrabbit]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

I would'nt bother too much about it, just pick a sub you like and as long as you have a good reason for it, and it's not a choice that looks bad, most people probably won't mind. i'm sure cookie cutter subs will be found soon enough. I think the reason most people are either /whm or /nin is because a lot, like me, have /whm already leveled and /nin is the cool because of duel wield. Btw, there is a thread on subs a few threads down, where all subjobs are being discused.

[Ellipses]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

WHM/WAR and WAR/WHM work pretty well at level 13, too. I'm not saying BLU/WAR is bad, but level 13 is way too early to say much about any job combo in the long run. I haven't seen a BLU/WAR in action in a party.

[Stromgarde]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

What exactly does /war provide in a solo environment at that level anyway?

[Awilo]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

Hmmmm except more Hp and more melee abilities, I don't see anything else but well, the way I see it BLU/WAR could be considered like people taking RDM/WAR (heard that rdm/war solo pretty easily) and lets not forget that some blue spells are physical and warriors have pretty good physical stats.

[nanatsu]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

At that level? Nothing but minor stat increases. Maybe 1 or 2 points over another job in certain stats. And a slight increase in HP over mage subs. You won't even get def bonus until level 20 blu/war. Short answer: Nothing really. Later on it would give you more but subbed at level 13 it's not really helping solo all that much.

[Ellipses]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

To be fair, most other jobs don't have any useful abilities at level 6 that would contribute to soloing, either. WHM and RDM have Cure. Almost every other job at that level, it's just a matter of adding to the main job's stats. The differences won't be all that tremendous on any sub that doesn't offer MP.

[Awilo]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

True, it's early to see how this sub is going to fair in the long run, I guess I keep on using it and keep you up to date on my solo adventures.

[nanatsu]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

Right. You probably could, quite honestly, solo well with no subjob at all with blu at that level and not experience too much of a decrease in performance.

[Kafeen]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

I wouldn't put too much of being able to solo at 13 down to a /WAR sub. I soloed all of level 19 on BLU as BLU/WHM killing, mainly killing EMs and Ts if I could find them.

BLU just seem to be alot stronger against those level mobs than most other jobs.

[Murphie]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

In the dunes I had a BLU/WAR in the party a few times. Once as main tank. It worked out ok, but since almost any melee job or a RDM/WAR can tank in the dunes, it's not really a great indicator for what works well later on.

[samarium]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

I play BLU/WHM, even though it's only level 16. I figure subjob abilities don't come into play so early, and the enhanced MP pool is nice, since BLU soloing basically live off their MP.

The most common combo I see is BLU/NIN, since there really aren't any shields for 'em, and Utsusemi comes in handy if (in a party) you wind up with hate.

I'm going to try WAR/BLU (with juice) for Cocoon next time I go thru the dunes. I haven't really heard any evidence on whether it works or not, but it makes a great subjob for the soloing whm, and +50% defense really isn't something you can sneeze at even at such early levels.

Especially before /nin becomes viable (not that I have it levelled anyway ); obviously entirely avoiding 3 hits every minute or so is very nice.

-sam

[Ziero]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

War/Blu is nothing more then War/Whm with more Def and less Mp. I've had a taru War/Blu in a pt once and he was unimpressive at best. For early lvls War/mnk > everything else.

As for Blu/war, there's nothing special about it at 13 other then the ability to tank. My Blu is only 10 right now, but I've been mainly using /Whm sub for the MP boost. Soon I'll get protect, which stacks with cocoon, and the -na spells to really get some use from my sub. But either way most sub jobs don't give you anything useful until lvl 20.

[Hyrist]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

People sub ninja for 3 reasons.

1. BLU offhand skill sucks and we have crappy shields to boot. Dual Weild = Best use of Sub slot. (Including subbing a status bonus weapon)

2. We take hate... alot. Shadows help us not be a mana sink on the whm, and alow us to fully use WS>CA>BA combo (WSCABA~~~!) without getting interrupted on the last spell.

3. Most melee jobs expirementing with blu has ninja already leveled, saves hassle.

4. It looks cool :D

BLU/WAR is nice, and can actually become a viable backup tank if geared for it (Defence, Vit and swap on STR/acc for physical skills(hate grabbing) But most want to play a DD or a support job. Which makes /whm best for support and /thf most efficent for damage dealing.

[Blaez]

Re: No love for Blue Warrior?

(heard that rdm/war solo pretty easily) .

Really? heh My /nin is a lot better than /war for solo ^^

none the less. I will be doing blu/rdm or blu/thf(sata)

but blu/war should be fine