How to skillchain Blue Magic!

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

If you hit Refresh on your browser it should update if it didn't automatically, its in the same spot as I put it originally.

Only 1 more level and you can test Flying Hip Press :D Don't sweat not bein high enough level haha, I wish I was high enough to test them myself ; ;

[Zempten]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

I'll try to get Flying Hip Press and tell you how it goes

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Relatively massive update, got a good bit of info from FFXIFlux on BG Forums. I could use the following tests:

58 - Flying Hip Press (anything)
62 - Body Slam (anything)

Any one of the following:
Spinal Cleave >> Spinal Cleave
Spinal Cleave >> Dancing Edge
Spinal Cleave >> Tachi: Jinpu
Spinal Cleave >> Starburst
Spinal Cleave >> Sunburst
Spinal Cleave >> Sturmwind
Spinal Cleave >> Spinning Scythe

[Zempten]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Okay, Spinal Cleave is lvl 63 though . . . I'll see if I can work on that

[IgotGAME]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Guys...I am now looking into something...see if this makes sense and is this possible???


Use CA then do this:

RLB > Terror Touch = Gravitation (dark) > Screwdriver = Transfixion (light) > BA > MB Light Spell


That would be:

RLB - Hit #1 - Wind/Fire Element
Terror Touch - Hit #2 - Dark Element
Gravitation - Hit #3 - Earth Element
Screwdriver - Hit #4 - Light Element
Transfixion - Hit #5 - Light Element
MB BLU Light Spell - Hit #6 - Light Element

4 Elements involved

Not sure if I am reading the Renkei chart right, but if I am.....could that combination be possible?? I know Level 3 Skillchains have to involve 4 elements and light or dark...would this work?

or maybe this

Use CA:

Uppercut > Jet Stream > Fusion > RLB > Detonation > BA/MB with Wind Spell


I am just trying to see what Level 3 SC we can accomplish alone (if possible), but I don't think I am using the right 4 elements in either combo above.

Light = Fusion + Fragmentation
Dark = Gravitation + Distortionor

In other words........

Light = Light + Fire + Lightning + Wind
Dark = Dark + Earth + Water + Ice


When you use CA can you start a Skillchain with a BLU Magical Spell followed by a BLU Physical Magic ability?

Double Post Edited:
I do see a Skillchain you can do with one other person to reach Level 3

Have them use a WIND WS... Gust Slash, Blade: To B, Red Lotus Blade, etc...

so...

Use CA

Gust Slash (partner) > Terror Touch > Gravitation (dark/earth) > Screwdriver > Transfixion (Light) > Fast Blade > Distortion (Ice/Water)

Thats with a friend starting it with Gust Slash.

Can you have light in the middle though? This would give you Dark+Earth+Water+Ice+Light elements all in one, but can you have Light in the middle of the SC??


I dunno..I just learned how to read this chart recently and am trying to come up with something cool.

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Heh, if this was possible, BLU would be wayyyy overpowered.

Thankfully for all other jobs, it isn't. Since CA only affects one spell, doing the following:

RLB > CA > Terror Touch (Gravitation) > Screwdriver

Would not create Transfixion. This is actually true for another reason too, that being that you cannot create a level 1 SC (such as Transfixion) immediately after making a level 2 SC (such as Gravitation)

Also, Transfixion is a level 1 SC with the light element, this does NOT mean it's the same thing as the level 3 SC Light. A Light SC which has four elements (Light, Fire, Thunder, and Wind) can only be made with high level WS's and spells. As far as weapon skills are concerned, only Weapon Skills above skill level 200 (generally learned around level 65 or higher) can be used to create Light or Darkness. In the case of BLU spells, the only spells that have been shown to create Light or Darkness are 70+ spells, those being Cannonball, Disseverment, Ram Charge, and Vertical Cleave.

You probably would be better off looking at a guide for SC's in general before trying to apply it to BLU as well, that's likely to get you extremely confused.

[IgotGAME]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Yea I understand the chart, but didn't think about the Level 2 > level 1 skillchain part so what you said makes sense.


I am just happy to be able to read the chart now...at first I was very confused.

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Level 1 > Level 1 SC = ok
Level 1 > Level 2 SC = ok
Level 2 > Level 1 SC = not ok
Level 2 > Level 2 SC = ok, but only possible with high level WS's/spells
Level 1 > Level 3 SC = not ok
Level 2 > Level 3 SC = ok, but only possible with high level WS's/spells
Level 1 > Level 2 > Level 3 SC = ok, but only possible with high level WS's/spells
Level 3 > Level 2 SC = not ok
Level 3 > Level 1 SC = not ok
Level 3 > Level 3 SC = ok, but only possible with RELIC WS's, such as Knights of Round. Not ok with normal high level WS's/spells

That should help.

[IgotGAME]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Araius

Look at this for an example:

If someone uses this combination - RLB > Avalanche Axe = Fusion

and then I use CA and a Physical Spell like Uppercut.....what would occur there? Would I produce another Skillchain or would it just do damage like a normal Physical BLU Spell. I know I can MB off of Fusion easy, but would anything different happen if I used CA and a Physical BLU Spell after that chain above?

[Taskmage]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Using CA Uppercut after Fusion will produce no additional skillchain effect because Uppercut doesn't make a connection to an equal or greater skillchain than Fusion.

Level 2 > Level 1 SC = not ok
Level 2 > Level 2 SC = ok, but only possible with high level WS's/spells

[IgotGAME]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Thanks Taskmage


Apparently I was trying to make us SUPER DD.


Blue Mage skillchains are very fun to use and makes it way more interesting to melee more than use magic.

I noticed last night that my Blue mage has +21 Attack...lol

[Zempten]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Update: Flying Hip Press is a magical attack, can't be used as a WS

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Update: Flying Hip Press is a magical attack, can't be used as a WS

I remember hearing that before and then nobody ever confirmed it xD Thanks. That just leaves what...Body Slam and Spinal Cleave priorities then.

[Zempten]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

Body Slam is going to be a bitch to get ; ;

[Araius]

Re: How to skillchain Blue Magic!

As of now there is only one spell that is not on the chart, that being Body Slam. If -anyone- has information regarding ways you can SC with Body Slam, lemme know.

There is also one spell that needs the priorities of it tested, Spinal Cleave. Doing any one of the following SC's (none of which can be done solo) will determine what priorities Spinal Cleave have (only one of these needs to be done, not all of them):

Spinal Cleave >> Spinal Cleave (Detonation or Scission)
Spinal Cleave >> Terror Touch (Gravitation or Reverberation)
Spinal Cleave >> Death Scissors (Gravitation or Reverberation)
Spinal Cleave >> Dancing Edge (Detonation or Scission)
Spinal Cleave >> Tachi: Jinpu (Detonation or Scission)
Spinal Cleave >> Starburst (Gravitation or Reverberation)
Spinal Cleave >> Sunburst (Gravitation or Reverberation)
Spinal Cleave >> Sturmwind (Reverberation or Scission)
Spinal Cleave >> Spinning Scythe (Reverberation or Scission)

There also -may- be some SC's that haven't been found yet for spells that already are on the chart, but could have multiple SC traits. Especially try Hysteric Barrage - In particular, try Red Lotus Blade >> Hysteric Barrage, or any combination that would create Fusion or Impaction.

Once those 3 spells (Body Slam, Spinal Cleave, and Hysteric Barrage) have been tested, I'll make a final version of the chart and e-mail it to Aden.