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    Anyone thought of boosting the stat that the ability buffs when you equip it? For example i think bomb toss boosts STR, so maybe its STR dependant? And for all those CHR boosting spells, maybe CHR is whats important?

    Just something i thought of, what do you all think? =)
    Last edited by Yoko; 05-03-2006, 12:51 PM.
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    Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

    Originally posted by Yoko
    Anyone thought of boosting the stat that the ability buffs when you equip it? For example i think bomb toss boosts STR, so maybe its STR dependant? And for all those CHR boosting spells, maybe CHR is whats important?

    Just something i thought of, what do you all think? =)
    Eh haven't been able to play Blue yet, provide some colors of which the abilities show up as. Elemental colors kind of give a hint to what may help them, not always but they along with probably the stat they add would give a clue.

    Bomb toss I would guess is Red so yes it seems like a good start to see if STR supports it.


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    • #3
      Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

      There's a thread on this here:
      http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/blu...llcasting.html
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      • #4
        Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

        Hmmm, the 2 threads dont exactly talk of the same thing, so anyone have thoughts about using the stats like i mentionned in the OP, please test/speculate ahead =) Right now i cant make tests, but ill look into it in the future, so if anyone feels like testing out another blu theory, go ahead ^^
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        • #5
          Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

          HAHA sorry this is OT but, i just clicked on that petition thing in your sig Yoko...

          "Policy to End the Real-Life Sale of In-Game Money in Final Fantasy XI Online"

          and right under it therse 2 ads for gil-selling sites. hahahahaha that's classic.

          ok back on topic: what macht said. :p
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          • #6
            Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

            Originally posted by Yoko
            Hmmm, the 2 threads dont exactly talk of the same thing, so anyone have thoughts about using the stats like i mentionned in the OP, please test/speculate ahead =) Right now i cant make tests, but ill look into it in the future, so if anyone feels like testing out another blu theory, go ahead ^^
            Heh, well actually I did technically test this and posted my findings. I didnt pick those stats at random and get lucky. I tested every stat on them. I actually forgot about Charisma at first, and when I said to my linkshell that poison breath sucked cause it had not stat to boost it, someone asked if I tried Cha. I hadnt so I went back got some cha gears & tested em on all the spells again. Low & behold, only affected poison breath.

            So, to clarify, Cursed Sphere grants +1 Mnd, but Its damage is boosted by Int.

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            • #7
              Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

              Ahhh, thanks, thats mainly what i wanted to know =)
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              • #8
                Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                Thank you ^^
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                • #9
                  Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                  Hi, this is my first post here I think. Im from allah >.>

                  I have done a lot of tests, and for physical spells STR plays a big roll. There are a few spells, like Bludgeon, that will see a bigger increase in damage with ACC. Thats mainly because another hit connecting makes a bigger increase than STR. I have a theory that chain affinity alters the way damage us computed. I have heard a few people mention that SA jet stream was out damaged by SA chain affinity jet stream almost every time.

                  With magical spells, I think its safe to assume INT. Since magic attack bonus effects them, Its almost a given that INT will work. The only way anyone is going to know is by actually testing.

                  CHR....... honestly IMO, leave it alone. Ask your self a few questions.

                  Will making your appearance make you a better Singer/performer? Yes

                  Will being a better speaker make enemies turn and fight with you? yes

                  Will makeup make you hit harder? no

                  Will a facial increase magic? no

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                  • #10
                    Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                    If you take charisma in the way of how performers are charismatic persons, then it can make sense, since a blue mage kinda performs, he is copying another monster.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                      hey i have something i think you will want to check out

                      - Im lvl 19 BLU and i was just playing around and wanted to hit a Too weak -- super hard so i used Bludgeon and did 40 DMG? hmmm well i was like wtf and did it to more to too weaks and did no more then 55 DMG so how is this when i do like 130+ to an EP?

                      i was trying i in sandy on rabits, pug, and bats all were too weak-- and i had STR+ gear

                      what i think is going on is that im missing 2 of the 3 hits but out of all the mobs i tested on i hit 40-50 DMG 20/20 mobs
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                      • #12
                        Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                        If you take charisma in the way of how performers are charismatic persons, then it can make sense, since a blue mage kinda performs, he is copying another monster.
                        A performer needs to please, a BLU doesn't. I'm inclined to think each spell has its own modifiers (just like our own WS have their own modifiers) rather than CHR being some universal BLU stat for no apparent reason.
                        hey i have something i think you will want to check out

                        - Im lvl 19 BLU and i was just playing around and wanted to hit a Too weak -- super hard so i used Bludgeon and did 40 DMG? hmmm well i was like wtf and did it to more to too weaks and did no more then 55 DMG so how is this when i do like 130+ to an EP?

                        i was trying i in sandy on rabits, pug, and bats all were too weak-- and i had STR+ gear

                        what i think is going on is that im missing 2 of the 3 hits but out of all the mobs i tested on i hit 40-50 DMG 20/20 mobs
                        You can only hit as many times as necessary to kill the mob. If you're doing it on Level 0-2 mobs, you're killing them with the first hit.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                          Ironic eh the petition to end gil buyiong adn thers a gil buying add >.< but to whaat i know ummmm well trhats nothig
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                          • #14
                            Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                            Oh ok lol i get it now thank you
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                            • #15
                              Re: Theory on which stat affects which skill.

                              -Magic Attack Bonus affects Banish and Holy. and it affects Quick Draw (which seems to be unaffected by INT). I don't think that rule of thumb holds up too well.

                              also, Amiricle said later in his post that Moldavite did up damage of his poison breath. ^^

                              -Dungeons and Dragons teaches us that Charisma is more than performing and good looks. It's more like the strength of your personality -- your soul or something. Anyway, it's the stupidest stat ever so there are like 5 billion ways for you to hype it up to fit anything. Anywho, Sorcerers are charisma-based spell casters in that game, lots of stuff like that. I don't see how FFXI is any different. They janked the base stats from D&D just like every other game, so it's pretty safe to assume they take similar definitions of the stats. And if CHR affects Shadowstitch damage, I don't see why it couldn't affect magic.

                              We have enough Int-whoring jobs already (BLMs only job, RDM equip swapping to the max to help overcome the inherent weakness of their nukes, and of course, ninjas like me who will equip swap as much +INT as possible for a barely noticeable change).
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