Blue Mage Tanking

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Well so far of the 9 pts in dunes I have been in a BLU has tanked every single fight, Hate is not a problem (Only time hate was ever a problem was when BLM full nukes)And then I as a second BLU in the pt would voke or spam spells to grab hate back.

The following were my party formations:

1). BLU BLU THF WHM BLM RDM

2). BLU BLU BLM SAM THF WHM

3). BLU BLU NIN SAM THF WHM

4). BLU BLU BLU PUP WHM THF

6). BLU BLU COR THF THF WHM

The other 3 went ok but we broke before much testing was done.

In all partys the other BLU was the tank and I was backup, even in the setup with a NIN. I subbed /WAR in all pts but the one we had NIN and i went as /RDM.

The main BLU went /WAR to provoke. Hate was never an issues other than when the BLM would over-nuke. Useing Cocoon and Metalic Body at start of fight would keep dmg low and be enough where WHM would only need to cast a cure 3-4 times during pt if at all. We fought T-IT++ and the only thing that hurt was bomb toss. We went from lvl 10 to lvl 15.

The reason I say this is to give a perspective on BLU. I have not seen any posts saying BLU can tank so I wanted to bring this to light. I am not sure if BLU can tank at higher lvls but I in no way think BLU should ever not try somthing, BLU is very powerfull and may be over-powerd. I hope SE wont "fix" this job as I love it this way. But the more and more I lvl the more and more I can do.

The one and only thing I found BLU sucks at is main healing a party. Other than that I have been effective in DD, Tanking, Enfeebleing, and Backup-Tanking. We at most hit chain 3 and there was a bit of downtime but once we learn how to manage it just right with the right gears I think BLU can do anything they want.

BRD can be taken to 75 in weeks, I think BLU might have the potential aswell seeing as in theroy I could get an invite for either a DD, Tank, Backup-Tank (Lower Levels) and as a enfeebler. Thats 3 to 1 odds of getting an invite, added with the nice soloablity to it and you got a insane potential.

Theres my 2 cents.
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[Darkhound]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

Nice post! A few comments from my part!

Dont forget that war can also tank at early levels but then falls short later on. I still think people are testing blue and its "role" is yet to be defined. On my server I still see alot of blues subbing whm, rdm, war, nin WHAT IS GOOD what is bad? I dont know.

For me, I hope i can make tihs work and dont be seeing as a crazy guy, but I defnatley want to STAY as far away as possible from main healing...... I have a 75 smn and well you know the story.. main heal... so I want to avoide this .... if blue mage ends up being a main or back up healer i will most likely drop it and seek something else. I think that BLU/WAR once i get provoke will be very good. As for tanking it will be interesting to see it at level 40 or 50+

[LadyPeorth]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

Feather Storm seems to suck for Hate pulling. A 30 damage Feather Storm can't seem to pull hate off a Dia, but Wild Oats defintely gets the monster hot under the collar.

Main problem I have with Blue Mage is I burn through my small MP pool pretty fast.

[Omni]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

so here is the question, which food?

for pre-refresh days, should you eat food to boost your mp pool and drink juices? or should you eat defense food and drink juices? how much casting do you go through during a typical battle? how often do you recast metallic sheild and cocoon?

[Kaylik]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

i thought that BLU could be a good tank considering some of the spells it can use, but then i remembered that it would cost mp to tank effectivley so i dont see it tanking to well in later lvls unless it gets those job traits from spells and has auto refresh.

[Akai]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

well, blu does get an mp drain spell and at 41, refresh keeps a plds mp practically full but then again, mp drain onry works if mob has mp, but you can lvl on crabs in boyhada tree 60?/kuftal 52-56/terrigan 53-56/ etc

[DakAttack]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

Almost any job can tank in the dunes.

[Medalink]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

Almost any job can tank in the dunes.

That being said BLU is not any job, it is a new job, we are trying things and it seems like it could tank. This post is just to understand and figure out what BLU can do.

As far as food goes I use DEF+ food, as Hume I have enough MP for 2 fights before I must rest.

Main problem I have with Blue Mage is I burn through my small MP pool pretty fast.

Not sure what Race you are but as Hume I get nice mp, and spells to gain hate dont cost that much.

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[LadyPeorth]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

Not sure what Race you are but as Hume I get nice mp, and spells to gain hate dont cost that much.

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Cat Blue, so roughly same MP. However, I usually start a fight with Queasyshroom, Wild Oats, and Sprout Smack (Poison, Vit Down, and Slow respectively)

[ruffrydasean]

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Yay.. I'm a Taru.. I win with MP anyway you cast it

[massaranger]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

key word in job that mean oppisite of tank, thats ***MAGE***

[Taskmage]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

We've had this discussion before. Blue mage = Aoi Madoushi. Madoushi = magic user. Paladins and ninjas both use magic, so I guess they're the opposite of tanks too.

locus has posted that blue mage can be an effective tank up to level 40. Very good party setups and equipment were involved, but if it's possible for blu to tank well at all at this point with our limited understanding of the job, then I think it's safe to say blue mage will be a good tank through the mid-game at least.

[Omni]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

We've had this discussion before. Blue mage = Aoi Madoushi. Madoushi = magic user. Paladins and ninjas both use magic, so I guess they're the opposite of tanks too.

QFT

We need to stop reading too much into the words people.

[DakAttack]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

That being said BLU is not any job, it is a new job, we are trying things and it seems like it could tank. This post is just to understand and figure out what BLU can do.

As far as food goes I use DEF+ food, as Hume I have enough MP for 2 fights before I must rest.

I would assume that even as a new job, a fighter mage could tank in the dunes. After the dunes inviting a Blue Mage to tank is risky. Through the 20s we no longer have access to the high defense gear, and even with Cocoon we don't have the Vitality to back it up. Pollen doesn't scale up to match higher level cure standards, and our selection of shields isn't the best. It's obvious we weren't meant to tank well.

[Patchinko]

Re: Blue Mage Tanking

If you look at all the abilities available to the BLU and their latent effects, it seems like it may have capabilities for both tanking and spellcasting throughout its levels. Many later spells either enhance evasion or reduce mob accuracy (a number of blind effects), and there are a number of AGI and VIT up latent bonuses, not to mention killer talents. Time will tell, but I think having a number of possible subjobs will benefit the BLU (and make it more fun since you can play different roles). Just speculation but... I can't wait to try it out!