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    Weighing in on BLU (split from RDM forum)

    Ok, sorry if this seems like a rant, buuuuuutttttttt.....

    The job is called Blue MAGE. BLUE MAGE (note the emphasis on MAGE).

    What do most mages do? They stand in the back lines and do their things. They usually swap in/out elemental staves and whatnot. So I think BLU will be the same as other mage jobs.

    Also, Blue Mage has MP, meaning you will have to swap out your sword for a Dark Staff in order to regain that MP.

    My predictions for BLU:

    Burst Affinity and Chain Affinity will most likely be able to be used without TP. So I believe a BLU will really be a magical DD more than a physical DD.

    Just my 2 cents tho.
    Rodin - Ragnarok Server (Out of Retirement)
    90BRD 90SMN 90WHM 75BLM 75RDM 61BST 50RNG 37NIN 37THF

    Goal: All jobs max level and capped merits.
    Tags: blu, forum, rdm, split, weighing
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    Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

    As LadyPeorth pointed out, accuracy of physical type blue magic, which comprises a large portion of their repetoire, will be dependant on the accuracy of your equipped weapon. Thus even if blu will not melee as a primary damage source, they will need to melee in order to keep their weapon skill on par in order to use their blue magic.

    Double Post Edited:
    Oh yeah, and most attack-type blue magic has an effect that varies with TP. Usually damage. A blu with no TP is most likely going to output crap numbers compared to a blu who's meleeing.
    Last edited by Taskmage; 04-19-2006, 03:42 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    lagolakshmi on Guildwork :: Lago Aletheia on Lodestone
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    • #3
      Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

      Or get skill up parties >.>

      The thing is, BLU has MP. IMO, they will be using staves for Spirit Taker if anything. It's just, I have this doubt that BLU will be an MP heavy job, and end up being broken because they HAVE to melee and recover MP, which would create a lot of downtime.
      Last edited by Rodin; 04-19-2006, 04:06 PM.
      Rodin - Ragnarok Server (Out of Retirement)
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      • #4
        Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

        Originally posted by Rodin
        Or get skill up parties >.>
        No, but you just missed Taskmage's post above yours. He says that a lot of the stuff is TP dependant. TP dependant. You don't get TP from /heal or from Refresh last I checked.



        I do think that RDMs need to have a better sword skill, but then again why cry about it? You know what NINs and THFs have been hurting with their own skill sets too (Why did SE gave them only A- in a weapon they're suppose to be skilled at and/or the only job to really use it is beyond me)
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        • #5
          Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

          True, but I'd like to point out that while it works for BLU, I'm not picking on BLU. I'm merely using BLU to pick on one small thing about RDM that has been bugging me. Case in point: WHM get access to their final weapon skill, Black Halo, at skill level 230, or level 70 for them. They get Hexa Strikes a level earlier. As a result, all you get endgame are tactical WHMs running around, bashing the hell out of things with a hammer, and for not-unimpressive damage, I might add. I know a Taru WHM who needs only an Optical hat and a couple or STR rings to decimate pots in sky. Now I ask: what the hell does a WHM need that much club power for?! Why not augment the REAL tactical mage(us), and give us better skill acquisition rates, and better skill at each level. If nothing else, it certainly suits us better.
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          • #6
            Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

            More on the blu TP thing. Check this post to see a list of the blue magic that's been datamined so far. You'll see that the job is geared to be an offensive class that makes heavy use of TP.
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              Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

              blu/sam. yummy
              There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
              but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
              transform a yellow spot into the sun.
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                Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                The skill list for blue is part magic and part physical so it can be either a magic dd or a physical DD but the fact that he is a mage means little because the original blue mage use to be a tank because they have to be hit with the attack to learn it but SE was kinda enough not to have to risk their lives for the chance of learning ability. This does not push them towards either side i believe it is based of their subjob.
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                • #9
                  Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                  That was an awfully generalization, Rodin. It's been pointed that BLU are mostly damage/enfeeblers from the front line. I doubt they even have 5 Healing Spells that would be practical. Also keep in mind that BLU stats change when they equip gear.

                  Tell a BLU that comes to the PT with 1000 needles that you want them in the backline and you'll find yourself short one pt member.

                  SE said they're looking for more dynamic parties, and now that PLDs can actually exp efficiently with BRD and receive Attack Bonuses, block crazily with their shields and the addition of 3 jobs that change the way the game is played, things are gonna be crazy in Vana'diel.

                  And fyi, my accuracy isn't that hot, but in full Wise Gear and Squid Sushi, I can build respectable TP during sky farming. With more Sword merits and STR upgrades in addition to the Rajas Ring, I can be a dangerous little Blue Bullet. (My nickname since I do Savage Blade in full JSE ^^ )
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                    Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                    If that list is complete, then blu doesn't even get a targeted healing spell until level 58. That doesn't mean people won't try to stick it in the backline with a gimp /whm.

                    They do get an AoE cure at level 16, but it's self target only. Not that it makes a difference if you're standing next to the melee ... >_>a
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                    • #11
                      Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                      The most interesting thing to me is that it's both MP and TP-reliant. Every other job that has access to these has always had to sacrifice one for the other. This job certainly seems fun, though, considering the high degree of customization and uniqueness inherent to it.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                        [Blue Mage} [Party} onry

                        Can't wait to hit Valkurm with that.

                        Entire PTs of BLU. All you'd need is a BRD for Ballad2 and Minuets. . .
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                        • #13
                          Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                          started thinking this on my commute home, but BLU/drk might be a nice combo...

                          Thanks Yyg!
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                            Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                            Hmm good idea. Attack bonus, small mp increase, aspir earlier than blu/blm ...
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                              Re: Anyone else here miffed Blu has A- sword skill?

                              yup, my thoughts exactly Task

                              Thanks Yyg!
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