Royal Redingote

[Mezlo]

So I'm trying to figure out the best piece to get (like everyone else) for ACP... I currently nuke in a Weskit, is the Royal Redingote + 5 MAB and + 5 MACC better for nuking? Is it that much better? My THF won't improve really with any ACP gear, I have no pets, and the only other piece of gear that could be better than what i use is the PLD set with the +5 enmity + 5 fast cast. I just don't use pld much, and I want to get a piece i would use frequently.

Oh, and my blm is used in limbus, sky, and Dynamis at times.

[Raydeus]

Re: Royal Redingote

I guess the question is:

5 INT

or

MAB +1, Conserve MP +2



But then I'm still having problems trying to decide what I'd use the armor on if I got it. And since the story has a reputation of being pretty bad except for the last fight/cs I rather finish WotG nation quests first.

[Mezlo]

Re: Royal Redingote

Doesn't the redingote get more MAB?

redingote = 5 int (2.5 MAB) + 4 MAB = 6.5 MAB correct?

The other question is what's more beneficial against sky mobs / gods, the +8 ele magic when casting or the +4 macc and the 5 int?

[Malacite]

Re: Royal Redingote

Seems like a waste given how good Weskit is and there's even better gear you can get (Morrigan's)

I'd say hold off on turning that key in until you're absolutely certain what mods you want. You might end up taking up another job like say SMN or RNG and then suddenly find yourself wishing you hadn't already picked your armor + augments.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Royal Redingote

I believe, if I recall correctly from BG, that the Redingote will outparse an Igqira weskit, but if you have Genie, it won't. I could be wrong there, but I think that's what I remember.

I have Genie so it won't be useful to me as a nuking piece. I think that the boost to your nukes over NQ weskit are not really that significant, however, so if you feel like it will be a waste, don't pick up a nuking piece. I can only recommend getting it perhaps for Drain and Aspir, but only if you don't have Nashira body. (Nashira body is better, but it's not easy to get. RR can be a decent substitute for it until you do.)

[Rostum]

Re: Royal Redingote

Seems like a waste given how good Weskit is and there's even better gear you can get (Morrigan's)

I'd say hold off on turning that key in until you're absolutely certain what mods you want. You might end up taking up another job like say SMN or RNG and then suddenly find yourself wishing you hadn't already picked your armor + augments.

:rollseyes:

Yeah, just wait around and you'll never get anything. Morrigan's is expensive as fuck, and you could just re-do the last mission to get a different ACP piece rather than do without until a year later you decide you want to take another job to 75.

[Taskmage]

Re: Royal Redingote

redingote = 5 int (2.5 MAB) + 4 MAB = 6.5 MAB correct?

I don't have much input on the gear decisions but I want to clarify that int is not related to MAB. For a Thunder IV the damage equation is

(2 x (yourint - mobsint) + 541) x staff x MAB

541 is the base damage of Thunder IV. So say you've got 120 int, the mob has 80, you've got an HQ staff and +15 MAB on top of the 32 MAB from your trait.
(2 x (120 - 80) + 541) x 1.15 x 1.47 = 1049 damage

If you add 5 int and 4 MAB from a redingote you get
(2 x (125 - 80) + 541) x 1.15 x 1.51 = 1095 damage

If you went with the weskit instead for no int but 6 MAB you'd get
(2 x (120 - 80) + 541) x 1.15 x 1.53 = 1092 damage

Performance between the two will vary of course depending on the int of the mob and how much MAB you have coming from other gear. I just wanted to show that it's not as simple as int = MAB.

Calculating Magic Damage - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

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For fun, the calculations for Freeze II:

720 is the base damage of Freeze II. So say you've got 120 int, the mob has 80, you've got an HQ staff and +15 MAB on top of the 32 MAB from your trait.
(2 x (120 - 80) + 720) x 1.15 x 1.47 = 1352 damage

If you add 5 int and 4 MAB from a redingote you get
(2 x (125 - 80) + 720) x 1.15 x 1.51 = 1406 damage

If you went with the weskit instead for no int but 6 MAB you'd get
(2 x (120 - 80) + 720) x 1.15 x 1.53 = 1407 damage

Not so clear cut, is it? I think it really comes down to the Conserve MP vs 15 more damage for your stoneskin.

Seems like a waste given how good Weskit is and there's even better gear you can get (Morrigan's)

I'd say hold off on turning that key in until you're absolutely certain what mods you want. You might end up taking up another job like say SMN or RNG and then suddenly find yourself wishing you hadn't already picked your armor + augments.

Regarding this, you can reroll your aCP item by dropping it and doing the fight over again, so the item is essentially future-proof. If you did get a Morrigan or level another job that could be better served by the piece, it's easy to switch.

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The other question is what's more beneficial against sky mobs / gods, the +8 ele magic when casting or the +4 macc and the 5 int?

In my experience +magic accuracy has more effect that +skill when your skill level is already high. That's anecdotal and there's no hard evidence on the effect of either though.

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[Malacite]

Re: Royal Redingote

Regarding this, you can reroll your aCP item by dropping it and doing the fight over again, so the item is essentially future-proof. If you did get a Morrigan or level another job that could be better served by the piece, it's easy to switch.

Well aware of this, but not many people on Seraph interested in redoing the fight at all lately.

[Taskmage]

Re: Royal Redingote

/shrug

That's what a good linkshell is for.

[Mog]

Re: Royal Redingote

What it boils down to is that it's better than an NQ weskit, worse than an HQ weskit.

If you never plan to get an HQ weskit or better, go for it.

[Cotners]

Re: Royal Redingote

The answer is simple; keep the weskit and go MACC + Fast Cast on the RR.