A which stats on gear is better thread

[Losrase]

Disclaimer:
I dont have access to most good gear because the lack of HNM/Dynamis linkshell due to the odd times I am able to play. Therefore my choices are limited. I am only going to list the stats bonus. I also dont list the name of the gear because I notice some people are bias due to level or word of mouth about the gear.
/Disclaimer

(Note: Now that I looking at the stats, I am pretty sure any BLM and most mage classes players would reconize which gear I am refering to)
With that being said which gear stats are better for nuking?

+11 int, -7 enmity, + 25 mp, +10vs Lighting

vs.

+2(maybe 3 I would have to double check) Magic Acc, +4 Conserve MP, +3 MAB, +40 MP, +40 HP

I ask a few BLM on my server but I would like to get a few more opinions before I start the grind to get either equipment.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

For end game BLM, 1 MAB is roughly equivalent to 2 INT. That means the second option is behind by roughly 5 INT's worth of nuke damage to the first option if you compare just INT vs MAB. That's quite a hole for the 2nd option overcome basically just through the +Magic Acc.

[TheGrandMom]

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If you are taru, then forget figuring in the mp. If you are galka, then that could be an important addition. That's kind of how you have to look at it. Are you loaded down with a lot of int already? Then you might want to sacrifice the first for the second. It really does depend on more than "is this good or is this good" sometimes. Blindly, I will say that I'd probably go for the first option.

[Mog]

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List your gear, and I'll tell you what you can improve on, excluding HNM's. I find that more useful than giving out a rough estimate on Int and MaB.

Disclaimer:

I dont have access to most good gear because the lack of HNM/Dynamis linkshell due to the odd times I am able to play. Therefore my choices are limited. I am only going to list the stats bonus. I also dont list the name of the gear because I notice some people are bias due to level or word of mouth about the gear.

/Disclaimer

If not listing gear...then its hard to say. If you have x amount of int, it's good to have y amount of MaB, so it really depends on what gear you already have. :x.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

Or Losrase could PM you that info Mog? I can understand how he feels. It totally sucks when people look down their noses at you for your equips. I've been in plenty of endgame shells yet my equips are far from uber. Hell I only have 2 HQ staves!

[Mog]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

Or Losrase could PM you that info Mog? I can understand how he feels. It totally sucks when people look down their noses at you for your equips. I've been in plenty of endgame shells yet my equips are far from uber. Hell I only have 2 HQ staves!

Sure, go ahead and send me a PM. I can tell him what he should improve on.

[Losrase]

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Or Losrase could PM you that info Mog? I can understand how he feels. It totally sucks when people look down their noses at you for your equips. I've been in plenty of endgame shells yet my equips are far from uber. Hell I only have 2 HQ staves!

All my equipment either has been bought, solo'd, or I got lucky and seen a equipment run. (/holds his Mufflers close). Only a few Assaults under my belt (bought equip for my BLU) and I am still on Nyzul Isle 1-5 (even though I been through every level in that place helping other people progress and always lose the lots for the equips on the 20,40,60,80,100th floors)

Sure, go ahead and send me a PM. I can tell him what he should improve on.

I'll do that. Thanks Mog

Also, I forgot to ask which would be better in the case of they Sky gods? (I seem to have a 50/50 when it comes to nuking, I either am on fire with no resists per nuke or the god puts me on ice with resisting 3/4 of the nukes) I been getting frustrated with resists against the gods.

[Mhurron]

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Or Losrase could PM you that info Mog?

Unfortunately, that doesn't help anyone else.

[Mog]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

Also, I forgot to ask which would be better in the case of they Sky gods? (I seem to have a 50/50 when it comes to nuking, I either am on fire with no resists per nuke or the god puts me on ice with resisting 3/4 of the nukes) I been getting frustrated with resists against the gods.

Depends which sky god you're fighting. Seiryu's wind based, so you want to cast ice. Suzaku's fire based, so water. lolGenbu is water based, so thunder. Byakko is light based, so any dark element. And Kirin himself is earth based, so wind works on him.

I'm sure you could get away with casting other elements, though I usually don't. You definitely don't want to cast the element that the god is strong to, which is why you might be getting resisted to all hell all those times.

[Losrase]

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When I get home Ill post my lolgear when I get home from work.

Depends which sky god you're fighting. Seiryu's wind based, so you want to cast ice. Suzaku's fire based, so water. lolGenbu is water based, so thunder. Byakko is light based, so any dark element. And Kirin himself is earth based, so wind works on him.

I'm sure you could get away with casting other elements, though I usually don't. You definitely don't want to cast the element that the god is strong to, which is why you might be getting resisted to all hell all those times.

That is what I do but I still get the 50/50 that i mention in the previous post. Byakko is the worst being light based and all. The 126 aspirs and 163 MB aspirs (Did the MBs our last time up their by accident...Gotta love BLUs self SC) does make me feel alittle better.

[Mog]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

When I get home Ill post my lolgear when I get home from work.



That is what I do but I still get the 50/50 that i mention in the previous post. Byakko is the worst being light based and all. The 126 aspirs and 163 MB aspirs (Did the MBs our last time up their by accident...Gotta love BLUs self SC) does make me feel alittle better.

What's your elemental skill at?

Also keep in mind that the same element being casted on an HNM will increase his resistance to that element. If you have a lot of black mages casting the same element, then whoever is later to go in that short time period is probably more likely to get resisted.

[Cotners]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

If you need/want a second opinion feel free to PM as well.

[Losrase]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

+11 int, -7 enmity, + 25 mp, +10vs Lighting

vs.

+4 Magic Acc, +4 Conserve MP, +3 MAB, +40 MP, +40 HP

The top stats are AF hat and Errant Slops. The bottom stats are Cobra Unit Cloche and Cobra Unit Trews. I finally got enough AN for the Cobra Unit Cloche and Cobra Unit Trews.

I tested the damage difference on mobs in sea and the result was not promising. I lost 10 damage by the change but it seems the Conserve MP proc'd more often because I will end fights with 200-300 mp where before I would end with 10-70 mp.

I think it was a crit but at the end of the farming (FYI: I now officially have enough organs for 5 Obi but no tissue dropped in 3 hours) I did a 1586 Freeze2 using AF hat and Cobra Unit Trews on ice day. Before this, my record was 1362 damage with Freeze 2.

Does any have any mobs they testing their magic accuracy/elemental enfeeb against. I would like to see which combination I would get resisted less often.

[Feenicks]

Re: A which stats on gear is better thread

The mantra I go by is:

Target is lower level than me with low resist rate = Prioritise MAB
Target is higher level than me with low to average resist rate = Prioritise INT (eg Dynamis)
Target is higher level than me with higher resist rate = Prioritise INT and Elemental Skill/Magic Accuracy (eg HNMs)

Your base nuke damage is calculated as a function of the difference between your INT and the target's INT, and then MAB is a multiplier of your base damage. That being said, there's no point having tons of MAB if your INT isn't going to provide you with a good base damage because a crappy number multiplied many times isn't as high as an amazing number multiplied only a few times. So for high level targets or targets with high INT, you should prioritise INT first, then MAB second.

Elemental Magic skill and Magic Accuracy affect your resist rate, so if you're nuking targets which have high resist rates then you should gear for Elemental Skill or Magic Accuracy since there's no point nuking at all if you're going to get resisted.

You have to bear this all in mind if you want to maximise your nuking potential. The gear that provides the best nuking results is almost entirely dependant on your target.

[Armando]

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Your base nuke damage is calculated as a function of the difference between your INT and the target's INT, and then MAB is a multiplier of your base damage. That being said, there's no point having tons of MAB if your INT isn't going to provide you with a good base damage because a crappy number multiplied many times isn't as high as an amazing number multiplied only a few times. So for high level targets or targets with high INT, you should prioritise INT first, then MAB second.

You're never going to have a crappy base damage number because stats scale up horribly with levels for mobs (well, players too, but we have insane equipment and food so that's a moot point,) and the bulk of a nuke's base damage comes from the nuke itself either way.

Thunder IV has a base value of 541, Thundaga III has a base damage of 697 and AMII's have base damage of 710. 1 MAB is worth 5 points of damage on Thunder IV, and 7 points of damage on Thundaga III and AMII's. 1 INT is only worth 2 damage on a Thunder IV or AM II, and only 1.5 on Thundaga III.

MAB is ALWAYS worth more point-for-point on high level nukes (as was pointed out, almost 2-3 times more depending on the spell.)

EDIT: To further prove my point - the difference between a Level 80 VT BLM/BLM mob with A-ranked INT (an exceptional case, best INT growth possible) and the same mob at level 90 is only 12 INT, which is either an 18 or 24 base damage difference depending on whether it's a Tier IV, a -ga III or an AM II. That's a small amount compared to the 600-750 base damage behind a Lv.75 BLM nuke. You'll never lose more than 20-30 points of base damage due to the mob being ridiculously high level.