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  • Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

    While partying on my BLM in the jungle this past weekend, I noticed something when partying w/ fellow BLMs... they never used their elemental enfeebles. Now, this may be just because I was sticking them on the mob and they felt like they didn't need to cause of me.. but I was noticing that the party took down the monsters I enfeebled a lot faster than the ones that I didn't due to resting MP. The only thing that the other BLMs would do is nuke it as much as they could.

    Am I in the wrong by doing the enfeebles? No one commented on me doing them except for the times that I didn't, saying "oh these ones are hard to bring down unlike the other ones we did". I'm wondering if sticking the enfeebles are really worth it in the long run...
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  • #2
    Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

    on mandragora it really doesn't matter given how easy they are imo. But no those enfeeble are not useless. I usually use only 2 tho
    - frost lowers AGI. On mobs with high evasion this will helps melee lands their attack easier
    - burn lowers INT. This will boost your nuking damage up a bit.

    these dots are also a crucial part of the Excavation duty assault where the main damage comes from stacking up these spells together. Bio2+Choke+shock+burn.
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    • #3
      Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

      Frost and Burn don't stack. Ice and Fire don't play nice together.

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      • #4
        Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

        I always use a couple of elemental enfeebles when leveling as BLM. I've noticed that a lot of BLMs don't though, which is depressing. But I don't let that deter me.

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        • #5
          Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

          Originally posted by LoneGamer
          Frost and Burn don't stack. Ice and Fire don't play nice together.
          I don't use them together. I only pick one depends on how well the melee are landing their hits. sorry if it wasn't clear.
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          • #6
            Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

            Originally posted by LoneGamer
            Frost and Burn don't stack. Ice and Fire don't play nice together.
            Is there a thread anyone can refer me to that says what does and does not stack?
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            • #7
              Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

              Originally posted by Mog
              Is there a thread anyone can refer me to that says what does and does not stack?
              I can do it in this one.

              Fire > Ice > Wind > Earth > Thunder > Water > Fire

              No two adjacent can be active at the same time, so you can have a maximum of 3 applied at any given time:
              Burn - Choke - Shock or Frost - Rasp - Drown

              As long as they don't 'touch' each other in the elemental wheel, they will stack.
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              • #8
                Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                /writes it down.

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                • #9
                  Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                  I used my elemental enfeebles extensively on the path to 75 and would recommend other BLMs do the same.

                  Given the small amount of MP they take to cast compared with the huge MP cost of BLM offensive spells, I would say the "cost" is worth it.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                    For exp, I usually just do 1 of 2 combos with elemental enfeebles.


                    Frost+Shock

                    Frost lowers AGI, letting melees hit. Shock lowers MND, letting enfeebles land. This combo works well for improving accuracy for both melee and mage against those IT++ mobs.



                    Choke+Burn+Shock

                    Choke lowers VIT and increases melee damage. Burn lowers INT to increase nuke damage. Shock allows better enfeebles. This combo maximaizes damage overall for those VT's your party have no trouble hitting.




                    I sometimes do Rasp+Drown+Frost for skill ups, to reduce mob hit rate, damage, and evasion. or just Drown+Bio II if I am tanking those pasky fleas using blazespikes. (0 damage to me, 18 to the stupid flea on each hit they make ^^v)
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                    • #11
                      Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                      Originally posted by Mog
                      Is there a thread anyone can refer me to that says what does and does not stack?
                      Don't forget to look at my sticky on the top of the page ._.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                        Yes, please use them, but don't go overboard with them. Cast them if you have the mp and time to spare. If you're running low on mp, save it. If you're building too much hate during fight, save it. If casting your enfeebles makes you miss casting on MB, save it until you can time it better. Generally though, yes, please cast.

                        Most times I use Choke and Burn, to drop VIT and INT. Depending on mob type and tank, I may use Drown/Frost if NIN tank or Rasp/Frost if PLD tank.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                          Personally, I always put Frost on, for fast TP gain for the melees, and either Rasp (Nin Tank) or Drown (Pld tank).

                          Rasp lowers Dex, and thus Acc.
                          Drown lowers Str, and thus Atk.
                          Frost lowers Agi, and thus Eva.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                            Originally posted by Onionsoilder
                            Don't forget to look at my sticky on the top of the page ._.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Do you use your elemental enfeebles?

                              Originally posted by Mog
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                              /slaps Mog for good measure.

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