Question about subbing RDM

[jeffos]

RDMs get a magic attack bonus when they are low level, would this stack with BLM's magic attack bonus so you nuke for more?

[Rones]

Re: Question about subbing RDM

No. It's the same ability. Duplicate abilities don't stack.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Question about subbing RDM

RDM Main FTW!!!!!!

What Rone's said.

[jeffos]

Re: Question about subbing RDM

I see, another question people people say at 75 they only get 3 extra INT from RDM, are they talking about hume, elvaan BLMs maybe? I'm a taru so I think I would get more.

[Icemage]

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I see, another question people people say at 75 they only get 3 extra INT from RDM, are they talking about hume, elvaan BLMs maybe? I'm a taru so I think I would get more.

As far as I am aware, all subjob bonuses are the same regardless of your race. As a Tarutaru, you have naturally higher base INT, but the /RDM sub gives you the same extra boost as it does an Elvaan.


Icemage

[tdh]

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I was under the impression that it gave a percentage of those stats. RDM subs BLM and it gives a percentage of the BLM's MP. Wouldn't it also give a percentage of the INT?

I guess I never really thought about this. However there is a BLM73 in my LS who's sub'd RDM basically the entire way. They just recently actually leveled WHM to Lv.37. It was Lv.10 last week. So I guess it's acceptable to do this, but when I level BLM, I would much rather have /WHM sub job for status removal spells, and at some point Curaga.

[WishMaster3K]

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For the purpose of being a strong force in the backline, RDM is the sub to go for BLMs. You get extra INT and spells you don't get as /WHM, namely Gravity and Dispel. As BLM/WHM, there is more MP to had, and yes, more spells in the way of AOE cures and status effects. But less INT.

Overall, BLM/WHM help the party more when needed, such as if someone dies, they can raise. But I'm a fan of BLM/RDM, at least at the low levels, because the extra INT is very welcome for enfeebling in absense of a RDM.

I wouldnt recomend it heavily for mid-end game, but like all mages, it's good to have multiple subs.

[Kafeen]

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I was under the impression that it gave a percentage of those stats. RDM subs BLM and it gives a percentage of the BLM's MP. Wouldn't it also give a percentage of the INT?

I guess I never really thought about this. However there is a BLM73 in my LS who's sub'd RDM basically the entire way. They just recently actually leveled WHM to Lv.37. It was Lv.10 last week. So I guess it's acceptable to do this, but when I level BLM, I would much rather have /WHM sub job for status removal spells, and at some point Curaga.

From what I gather of it it adds half of the stats of the sub jobs level. So a BLM75/RDM37 would have an RDM37's INT / 2 added on to its base. I haven't checked it myself so I could be wrong. I've also heard that HP and MP are slightly different and its 25% or 33% or something that's added instead of 50% like other stats.

[Belcrono]

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A really good BLM should always have both WHM and RDM sj available, depending on for example: the party situation, where are you leveling and what is the PT setup... and then decide what would be the more useful in that specific case.
I would however have to disagree with Wishmaster, and say that if anything /rdm is more useful at higher lvls when you can actually use stoneskin, phalanx, dispel etc and enjoy the fastcast more, in a more extensive way countering the things you lose out on by not having /whm.

[WishMaster3K]

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Sorry if it seemed I was advocating it one way or another Belcrono, but yeah you're right. While you are correct, I forgot to indicate that more often than not, the party will lack a RDM at lower lvls (Most likely because RDM's aren't a commodity before 45 ), and the gap between RDM and BLM enfeebling isnt TOO* severe, so the extra INT from RDM sub helps in that respect.

Stoneskin, Blink you can also get from a WHM sub, but true, Phalanx and Dispel can come in very handy endgame.

Personally, when a BLM friend of mine was resisted when trying to Dispel Seiryu, I chuckled, but I do see where, in exp pt at least, lol, having RDM can be useful.

[Belcrono]

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Sorry if it seemed I was advocating it one way or another Belcrono, but yeah you're right. While you are correct, I forgot to indicate that more often than not, the party will lack a RDM at lower lvls (Most likely because RDM's aren't a commodity before 45 ), and the gap between RDM and BLM enfeebling isnt TOO* severe, so the extra INT from RDM sub helps in that respect.

Stoneskin, Blink you can also get from a WHM sub, but true, Phalanx and Dispel can come in very handy endgame.

Personally, when a BLM friend of mine was resisted when trying to Dispel Seiryu, I chuckled, but I do see where, in exp pt at least, lol, having RDM can be useful.

As I indicated earlier I am not saying that both are not good choises at any lvl, but simply that if we are speaking in general terms, a RMD sub gains in usefulness in respect to the whm sub as you progress towards higher lvls. It is true that stoneskin and blink are things that WHM sub has, which is sort of my point; rdm do not get them nearly as early as the whm sub does, thus making the rdm sub, in comparison to the whm sub, better at later lvls, than a rdm sub compared to whm sub at lower lvls... in general terms.