Free MB?

[DakAttack]

Can Black Mages magic burst without there actually being a skillchain? I had always thought a skill chain qas required, but in one party I had there were times where the samurai WS'd too quickly, we didn't get the chain, but the Blm still MB'd Freeze for over 1000 damage. I thought it was extremely odd, but I didn't say anything about it.

[neighbortaru]

Re: Free MB?

are you positive it was a MB? afaik, a SC is required.

[DakAttack]

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It's very odd.

[neighbortaru]

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Hmm, did you filter out the SC damage? Looks like a good Distortion to me.

[berzerk]

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very good o.o

[Macht]

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Well as far as I know a SC is required before a MB can be done. Many times though I've seen a MB still work even when a SC doesn't succeed, as long as both of the correct WSs are done. I think it's likely a bug, because it's only been repeatable to do that in lagged areas. Though again there might be a possibility that the ninjitsu that was used before hand might of done something, unlikely but not a possibility to be overlooked.

One thing I know for sure is two actual spells can not be combined to make a MB. However I guess maybe ninjitsu and spell might.

[Taskmage]

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Katon is fire elemental with water weakness. It'd be very odd if an ice elemental attack somehow synergized with that to make an MB. It is an interesting coincidence that they both landed at the same time though.

[DakkoN]

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Sometimes if the person skillchaining changes gears as the skillchain effect is going off, the damage won't be listed in the log. I have done this many times while duoing with my friend. Friend opens skillchain, I swap on crimson body for the +10mnd Savage Blade modifier, I change back to Dalmatica as the skillchain is going off, only my weapon skill damage is showed in the log. Doesn't show the skillchain effect damage >_>

[neighbortaru]

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ah, that sounds like a reasonable explaination Jehryn.

[Xhaztol]

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I like the utter difference between those damages. 12 to 1111. Way to go BLM.

[-VM-]

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Yea, in 75+ Levels of BLM, I've never once seen an MB that wasn't supposed to happen. There's always been an SC present and like Jehryn mentioned, sometimes the Skillchain damgae and graphics don't show, but the skillchain still goes off, thus the MB would still succeed also.

[DakAttack]

Re: Free MB?

Sometimes if the person skillchaining changes gears as the skillchain effect is going off, the damage won't be listed in the log. I have done this many times while duoing with my friend. Friend opens skillchain, I swap on crimson body for the +10mnd Savage Blade modifier, I change back to Dalmatica as the skillchain is going off, only my weapon skill damage is showed in the log. Doesn't show the skillchain effect damage >_>

Ah this must be it. The samurai had different gear for accuracy, and gear for Str when he used his weapon skill. Thanks.

[Alauna]

Re: Free MB?

There also is a glitch that happens on occasion, where a "Resist!" will pop up for no apparent reason.

Alauna starts casting Cure III on Fishura.
Alauna casts Cure III.
Resist! Fishura resists the effects of the spell.

O.o

yet... she did recover 300some HP

[Tsama]

Re: Free MB?

As far as I am aware and this is almost 2 years playing blm... You can not burst without a skillchain... Though I have seen the other things that have been said, where someone changes equip, or on odd ocasions a ws will miss and I still MB. But, to answer you question the quick way, no, a magic burst is based upon the theory of linking magic to the end of a skill chain.

[Kafeen]

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I was in a party with a BLM who claimed you did a MB by 2 BLM casting the same spell at the same time. I think he was just a Noob though. Me and another member who had a 70BLM put him right. He took a but of convincing though.