oh yay! we're next

[Caspian]

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well individually blm aren't overpower imo. in a balance PT set up they function perfectly as a damage burster on demand and i don't think they need any real adjustments. The manaburn I think is what makes S-E think they have to change blm. I'll be really curious to see what S-E can come up with to discourage manaburn but not screw blm up in normal PTs.

Wasnt it presumed the rng nerf was to hurt arrow burn parties? But the nerf ended up hurting rng's in virtually all instances? (I'm not turning this into a poor poor rng thread, so just hold on everybody) It would seem SE is going to take the easy way out again and just bring everyone down to the same lvl rather than try and help other jobs. I dont suppose they'll be happy until every job is only doing 1-2 points of dmg with every attack and it takes half an hour to kill an easy prey mob.
What I dont understand is that I never heard of anyone complaining about manaburn parties and not getting invites etc. b/c there were blm's lfg. I had always kinda figured other melee's complaing was in part responsible for the rng and ninja nerf(s). I hope they dont blm's usefulness in normal pt setups, but with SE's track record it doesnt look too hopeful. Good luck guys, I hope it doesnt go too badly for you.


(Nearly 5 down, SMN and SAM to go)

[WishMaster3K]

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The ultimate nerf would be making a BLM hit for the same amount as a RDM. ;.;

[CarbonFibre]

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I dont really do any big HMN hunting, but if no one does big dmg anymore, how long is it going to take to kill these sort of things? Not only that but common day lvling will take longer too. weeeeee

This should go great with the update to some HNMs where they get much stronger the longer you're fighting them.

[UnnamedGalka]

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If anything, I'm guessing that a BLM nerf would be something like mobs gaining temporary resistance (and eventual temporary immunity) to a certain element if you "overuse" it on them. Just like the kiting nerf that they imposed a while back...mobs gaining temporary immunity to Gravity if they're getting hit with it a lot.

[Alauna]

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If anything, I'm guessing that a BLM nerf would be something like mobs gaining temporary resistance (and eventual temporary immunity) to a certain element if you "overuse" it on them. Just like the kiting nerf that they imposed a while back...mobs gaining temporary immunity to Gravity if they're getting hit with it a lot.

Exactly. Or just the reverse of that. The mob starts with a High Elem. Magic Resistance, and needs to be "worn down" before the "real" damage starts. Kinda like warming up a mob.

That would "nerf" manaburns, as there would be no way to wear the mob down, before the BLM's nuke. Gaining resistance over time wouldnt stop manaburns. They would just move down to more VT's , because 1 round of nukes can kill it.

All in all, im not too worried about BLM.

[DM337]

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Or... mobs could gain magic defense if they are hit by several nukes in a small amount of time. This way, manaburns are slowed down because 4-6 nukes hitting all at once makes the mob have huge magic defense. But BLMs in normal parties aren't hurt unless they spam their nukes constantly.

First they'll nerf BLM, then nerf SMN, leaving us with few options for HNM DDs...

[DakAttack]

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Who would nerf summoners?

[neighbortaru]

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Who would nerf summoners?

you mean they're not already?

[DakAttack]

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From what I've seen summoners are rarely invited to parties. They're very useful for the melee though, because most of their avatar buffs are melee related. Hastega, Blinkga, Warcry, Enthunderga, etc. Stoneskinga may not last long, but it's still very useful.

[Jei]

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SMN post 70 is really powerful. But I really don't mind them, they have to go through 70 levels of hell to get there...

[Caspian]

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I never understood all the hatred towards summoners pre-70. Yes, w/o all the avatars they are pretty well useless, but I've always found them to be huge assets to the party. Blinkga and stoneskinga for the tank, Fenrir's lunar cry for just about any DD, melee or otherwise. More mp and and the refresh trait make them nearly as good healers as a whm, and in certain instances, better.

In the interview they said they had previously tried nerfing blm's but the players found ways around them. How have they tried nerfing them in the past?

[ruffrydasean]

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Yea.. i'm curious about that too...

[wolfjorg]

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Untill it happens I will not worry about it.

[ClydeArrowny]

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blm nerf = lower range of all spells so they cant solo worms as well i think

[Jokerboy1]

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what i herd is that there gonna even out the damage blms do.. like taru's will do as much as elv's

but idk really its wat my linkshell was talking about. they said they read it someware =/

but yea like wolfjorg said.. dont worry about it till it happens