What releases a monster from Bind?

[Anakron]

From what I've noticed, the spell Bind may work a bit differently than Shadowbind (or maybe not, I'm not sure). With Shadowbind, it seems any damage will release a monster from the bind, provided that it's a certain toughness (this is what I noticed from exp parties, so we're talking VT-IT here. I've never used shadowbind on EPs-Ts). However, with TW, the bind will last for full duration even if you continue shooting it.

I have tried bind-nuking EMs and DCs on BLM, and it seems that magical damage does not release a bound monster. But I've never tried it on EM+, and I've never tried dealing physical damage as in the case of my RNG.

That's my experience with the spell...anybody care to elaborate? Thanks in advance.

[Ghostraven]

i'm 52 rdm with capped enfeeble stat. I elemental seal + bind on any IT mob and it will sometimes stay bound for about 5 secs, sometimes bound for .00001 secs.

On even match and lower I can usually bind for quite a few seconds.

Magic or any other attacks don't seem to determine how long the mob stays bound, I think it has more to do with Mob mnd/ice resist vs your mnd.

[Icemage]

RNG Shadowbind breaks the moment the monster takes damage from any sort of attack (spell or physical).

Magical Bind doesn't seem to have this limitation. You can bind-nuke TWTBW's all day long. Not sure about physical or ranged attacks, but I doubt they affect it either.


Icemage

[WishMaster3K]

Might as well make my return on this post ^^

Bind and Shadowbind (RNG friend from RL is 75) appear to do the same exact thing, and until I do more testing with him, I'll keep it as such.

Now, from Ballista and Farming, Bind's duration is based on enfeeble skill and mob resistance to it. In other words, it's just like any enfeeble along those lines.

Now, what makes Bind wear off is a physical attack. Thats it. Proof of this is in Ballista, I bind, and I'm able to pump multiple Arrows and/or Nuke as many times as I want. Other proof is when i feel like soloing a T or higher, and its the same thing. Bind just may wear off fast, but it only cancels if there is a physical attack. I know about arrows from another expedition- Binding mobs when I wanted to raised my Archery, i was able to get 10 or so shots off of the mobs in the 130-150 range before they felt fit to run over.

Bind may not seem to be effective in exp, cause you have Melee that cant seem to read anything in chat log, so when you cast it, they are in the midst of attacking. Hence, it wears off and efectively waste a spell that takes a year and a day to recast. . .

So, since this is on a BLM forum, take care when you ask for there to be Bind casted, because you will understand why the RDM is upset that you yell at them for claiming they didnt listen to you

[Jei]

when I level up Blm it seems the bind *sometimes* break when my nuke hit the mobs. :O I don't really know if it's the nuke or is it just a random timing thing.

Shadowbind for ranger I notice the same thing.

[Macht]

Hmm, bind breaking thats a new one to me. I've never noticed Bind or Shadowbind act any different. You sit there and bind certain monsters and you'll find the effect to wear off a second after they recieved it. Other times weather taking damage or not it'll wear off anywere up to 10-15 seconds for EMs and less the stronger they are.

I've used Shadowbind on many occassions to solo EM monsters, part of the shadowbinds lasting power seems dependant on the arrow you use. A cheap arrow will only hold it for a short time. Were stronger arrows can hold it for good lengths of time. I've used Scorpion Arrows to shadowbind EMs and they would stay bound to that spot for a good 5 - 6 shots, enough to get them halfway or lower.

[ClydeArrowny]

Maybe besides the normal duration, theres a check everyu time the mob recieves dmg which may cancel bind/SB? I know as rng on hard mobs even a 1 dmg hit will break it. On the other hand on some NMs it will last till it dies after taking multiple slugs :/

[TheMidg]

From what I've seen, nothing breaks Bind. It just wears, but not always after the same amount of time.

[evilution]

Melee damage will cancel cause the bind to break instantly.

Test it. In all of my time playing it has held true 100% of the time.

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by evilution
Melee damage will cancel cause the bind to break instantly.

Test it. In all of my time playing it has held true 100% of the time.

From what I've seen, this isn't true. Just binded monster today and friend wacked away at it and it wasn't released from bind. I'll look at it again but I'm pretty sure melee damage doesn't break our bind :p

[Keyura]

Re: What releases a monster from Bind?

is it just me, or does it seem that there could be a discrepency? dunno if anyone considered it, but what the user sees may be like from someone who didn't use bind/shadowbind will not see the text of it wearing cause they didn't cause it and just see when it starts moving after they whack them? seems like a possibility that a melee and a mage/rng may be performing the same test under different circumstances, my 2 cents

[lilguy]

Re: What releases a monster from Bind?

im a blm lvl 47 now i did sum farming in qufim and i use bind alot. melee doesnt effect it nor does casting spells of any strength. what does seem to make the bind time shorter is when i nuke. when i bind and just leave it, it seams to stay bound long but i havent actually timed it, mabye ill do sum more testing tonight

[Macht]

Re: What releases a monster from Bind?

Still haven't had shadowbind or bind break on me only wear off, if the monster is alive by then. I've shadowbind or shadowstich move away wait doing no damage, and then repeat doing damage. Bind seems to always last as consistently as it usually does, of course. My shadowbind and shadowstich always have lasted anywere from like 5 sec. to maybe 15 sec.

It doesn't seem to be high damage that would break it either, I've done shadowstich then hit the monster with Barrage still stays bound anywere from 5 sec. to 15 sec. just as if I never hit it at all.

[grunion]

Re: What releases a monster from Bind?

does magic DoT make it unbindable, as DoT would make it unsleepable?

[Blood Red Poet]

Re: What releases a monster from Bind?

I cast bind on mob, then I meleed it and retreated. The mob was still binded for a few more seconds. I am sure DoT doesn't break magical bind either.