Do BLMs really do that much damage?

[Tetsura]

I just want to restate that certain jobs obviously specialize in certain circumstances.

Throw a Rng into a Mnk bone pt and see if you still consider him the hands down strongest DD. On that same note, put a Mnk into a Rng Darter pt and see who comes out on top. Put a Blm into a mobile chaining pt, he wont keep up. Or put any Melee into a Blm PT, what are they going to do?

Damage is situational. You can strut through the game as a Rng thinking you're the best, and then come face to face with CoP Wyrms and have a Sam, Drk, War or Smn beat you very badly in dmg.

Blm's are "Damage on Demand" (I liked that line ), we may not be the highest DD in all situations... but who is?

[Balfree]

this mentality will never stop...

how many times does one need to point out that its not how much one person does? its about the party as a unit

im playing blm, 34 atm, its heaps of fun too, and ive been MBing my ass off to keep myself useful

the blm has the ability to dish out big numbers at one shot, what does that mean? you kill off a mob who's at 10% HP in one shot, which allows the rng to leave the fight a bit sooner to keep the chain alive

ive been partying with friends lately, thf blm blm brd nin nin, the thf gives the nins SO MUCH HATE with fuidama that i can nuke all i want, honestly, i shit you not when i say i nuked 10~15 times a fight without taking serious hate, maybe a slap here and there, but mobs drop like flies, not to mention the other blm too, who usually plays the healer/enfeebler part, ofcourse were all friends and we manage to plan ahead without much confusion, which is rare/impossible with pickup parties

[Ihsahn]

Wait... So are you guys saying that Black Mages arn't too good? Would you recommend starting as one?

[Balfree]

what? ofcourse it's good! it's one of the most needed jobs in my opinion a party allways needs: the tank, the healer, and the black mage, unless you invite 5 rng and a healer? but then you run the risk of dieing miserably =P im talking convencional parties here

[Ihsahn]

Hehe, thanks
I'm getting the game tomorrow, and in the past games, Black Magic has been my favourite offense, I just didn't know what the best choice would be.

[SuperBaby]

Wow that must have been one pathetic blm i was bursting blizzaga for around 290-300 as elv blm at lvl 32

[Balfree]

depends on:

what enemies you fight, do you use food or not? is there a bard casting threnodies or not? is there a nin enfeebling spell resistances or not? i'd be offended if you called me pathetic man.. and at 32 i was killing weapons in sauromugue champaign and doing 190~ish MBs with waterga -.- morrions, eremites, solid wand+1, all seer +1 eq, some +1 int belt, +1 int scarf, black cape, and melon pies + learned etude + water threnody from bard, how the hell you got 300 mb i cant fathome, unless you were killing some mobs with poor magic defense? weapons are indeed arcana foes... i do 250ish MBs in garlaige bats and beetles with firaga now tho... as a 34 blm/rdm

[SuperBaby]

No brd fighting crabs in grotto occasional ghast 2 nins only blind and paralyze debuff though blizzaga burst 290-300 always dunno what else to tell you +27 int which is pretty standard for a elv blm at that lvl etc etc.

[pooq]

1. crabs are weak to ice
2. ice spells have a higher base damage then water spells (on the same tier)

190 ish waterga bursts is fairly standard, i was bursting 190-210 waterga on mandys depending if food was up or not (hey.. its mandys give me a break, i want to watch my calorie intake)
on the same exact mandy, i would burst 230 with firaga (had 2 SC going and sometimes they would do them on the same mandy)

so Balfree, there is no need to worry, your damage is the same as mine, and concidering that i am a few levels lower, and you were fighting weapons, it would even out

my personal best burst so far was a 507 waterga2 MB as 44 blm only had +23

also.. dont put so much stock into +int... so much bragging about +int.... :dead:
people always seem to forget to notice BASE INT scores

[SuperBaby]

I was bursting 180 on mandys with thunder in jungle whats your point i wasn't putting anyone down i was just stating that it seemed low for a hume with more base int then me.

[SuperBaby]

And yes she would do more if its wasn't weapons so she probably would outdamage me since weapons are assholes when using magic sorry missed the part about weapons lol

[lilguy]

Re: Do BLMs really do that much damage?

blm are good for quickly killing a mob when is hp is low but would still take DD a while to take down on there own so if a blm 1 spell kills what DD might take 10-20 hits/misses ect then there is less down time

[nugzkraka]

Re: Do BLMs really do that much damage?

I out damage melee in every pt i am in, using a Parser to record damage

[Coinspinner]

Re: Do BLMs really do that much damage?

Black mages have...

• ...2 AoE Sleep spells and 2 single target Sleep spells...
• ...Escape...
• ...Warp and Warp 2...
• ...Cure and status-Na spells...
• ...debuff spells...
• ...reliable Stun...
• ...the ability to push a button and spew out big damage...
• ...at range and on moving targets...
• ...while giving it hardly any TP...
• ...and wearing the second coolest hat.

It would be completely unfair to other jobs if BLMs also always did the highest damage on top of all that. Recall previous FF games. BLM was never the "best" damage dealer, even WHM's Holy was stronger than their spells. Yet they remained useful because they got a variety of elements, sleep and toad, etc.

Hell, when I started this game all the high level importer BLMs (on this site, no less) were saying that BLMs didn't do much damage and were expected to Cure more than nuke. Basically WHMs that magic burst and Sleep. That was the role I was expecting and hey, I was pretty happy with it. But it turned out differently, didn't it?

[jeffos]

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