LvL 52 BLM: Question about AF and Coffers

[AtraposBLM]

Originally posted by Coinspinner
I've never been invited to a BC60... and I was forced to level WHM to 40 so I could actually be useful for BC40. 300+ seals sitting in my storage unused. /shrug


Huh?


Yes... and then rest 3-5 minutes for MP. I don't believe BLM can farm better than RNG, or hell, any job but WHM and BRD. Past Sidewinder... no chance in hell.

That was my point exactly. Even with BC60 - you won't get invited to those as a BLM, even though you're the most crucial job. Why? Because simply put, nobody wants to waste 60 seals on a run that could potentially fail. So people are going to wait to do BC60's with people that they trust, rather than someone random.

Plus, you have a higher chance of being invited randomly to a BC60 as a ranger. Why? Well, BLM is a *crucial* job. It's also one that if you get a bad blm...you're going to fail your run. So most people aren't going to invite a BLM they don't *know* will succeed at it. Ranger, on the other hand, is a much easier job, and its much easier for RNG to be good at a BCNM than a BLM. Why? Well, most of the mobs in BC60's (the inner ones, anyways) are essentially Even's, and everyone knows how ridiculous RNG damage scales up on things lower than them. I would feel more comfortable inviting a RNG I didn't know than a BLM - worse case scenario, the RNG sucks and you kill slower, or he's stupid and gets himself killed. Either way, you'll still *most likely* win the run, and then you can get rid of the RNG without wasting an orb. If your BLM sucks....well, you can say good bye to 60 seals.

Also, I'm lv72, and atm, if I try to solo farm, I could probably manage...oh, iunno....15k/hour if I *really* tried. I used to be able to make 30-50k+ duo farming Light Elementals in Tu'lia, but unfortunately, the price of light clusters dropped from 10k to 5k, so my profit is cut in half, even without me getting shafted with drops. Granted, 15-25k/hour isn't bad at all...but that's assuming you have a RDM friend to farm with, and a minimum level of lv70 (even at lv70, I was getting many resists, and I couldn't sleep the elementals reliably unless I used Elemental Seal). A BRD could also work (in fact, a bard would probably be better, as Carnage Elegy would probably help a *ton*, but then again, you would lose out on a lot of extra nuking damage. I parsed out my last trip there with a lv75 RDM (I was still lv70). I did 66% of the damage (almost exactly), and he did 33%, so with a bard, kill speed would likely be slower).

Also, keep in mind, that of the mage jobs, BLM is the only one that really can't use /thf unless you're farming things *significantly* below your level. Let's put it this way - I'm lv72, and if I don't use stoneskin, Giant's in QUFIM hit me for a good 70+ damage critical, and 25-40 regular hits. Basically means you've gotta use Drain a lot. Anything past Qufim, however, will hit me enough that just using Drain, my MP gets rapidly depleted, and I'm forced to rest. Keep in mind that I do *not* -ga farm, and I try to limit my nukes to when I feel I'm in danger and need to kill fast (which, for the most part, is never). I usually use Fire Staff to "farm", for the extra STR and ATK it provides...but iunno. I've been debating using the Scythe for farming, but in all honestly, I don't really notice a difference in kill speed between Mandibular Scythe and Fire Staff, other than the fact that my staff has much better weapon skills (154 skill compared to 59 skill).

As we've all said before - BLM does not make money. If you have a static BC60 group...well, you'd probably be better off taking your RNG, so you don't have to spend 200k on Sleepga II (maybe your server has it for cheaper though). Any other BCNM...take RDM and WHM to lv40 and you'll have much better healers to choose from, and your ranger will be much more useful than a BLM for damage. Personally, imo, this is how the jobs mentioned rank in useful for various BC's:

BC60-
1. BLM
2. RDM
3. RNG
4. WHM (even though it's last, whm's are VERY valuable BC assets. It's just if you don't have at least 2 of the above, the BC will be difficult to beat)

BC50-
No experience doing these. Could be different.

BC40-
1. RDM (convert = the win)
2. RNG (He can kill the white mandies almost solo)
3. WHM (healing = the win)
4. -
5. -
6. BLM (a gimpy healer with just Cure II and no regen = no thanks, and BLM doesn't have the endurance to do damage for 15 minutes.)

BC30-
don't know

[mdn]

i don't know anyone that does pub bcnm60s. we do the giants in fei`yin and let me just say that there is no way i'd take a pub invite to it.

if you want a job to make money with, level thf to 65 and go raid castle oz for astral rings and camp nm with that. blm is a money sink, not a great farming job.

[Coinspinner]

Originally posted by TheMidg
Do you buy gil online?

Is this directed at me? No, I don't.

[mdn]

Originally posted by Coinspinner
Is this directed at me? No, I don't.

i think that question was directed at the topic starter, since their gear is amazing and they think blm is the #1 farming job in the game

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by Coinspinner
Is this directed at me?

No :spin:



/point Mdn

[Thegod]

ummm no i dont buy gil online.

when i said leveling blm to make gil, i meant leveling blm to level 60 to do BCNM 60s.


I can get tons of beastmen seals by farming in giddeus, and it doesnt take much time at all.


my ranger is only level 40, so i wouldnt know about farming with sidewinder, im sure it's effective, but i wouldnt know.

the fact that i could use lower level arrows to farm, but it takes longer, and i'd have to farm much lower level mobs then what i want to farm (goobues(sp)

My gear isnt amazing by any means, now if i had a desert stone and some sky gauntlets then yea i would concider that amazing.


EDIT:

ok just let me know witch pieces are a must have for level 60, as of now im thinking i'll pass on everything, I'll be camping the shaman cloak NM all this week, so hopefully that drops, im not worried i have paitence and get all the drops in time, sometimes a loooooong time..lol

so the hat and the body gear are out of the question.

+3 int, do you guys think its better then +15 to drk skill?

the boots are a joke i wont even mention them

+2 int +2 mnd, isnt that better then the AF leg stats?

please help, because if not i'll just buckle down and do AF quest instead of camping the NM, even though i hate going to the snowy lands.


oh and i finished G2 in 3 hours, is that a record?

i dont even have a moldavite earring yet...lol

I make gil from gardneing tree cuttings/saplings and other goods witch sell fairly quickly and for a decent ammount of gil.

I would rather do BCNMs because soon i wont be able to log on everyday to check pots on 4 mules and my main character.