Elemental Weaknesses

[Extreme]

I'm getting a little bit tired of seeing ****y blm's everywhere, so I decided to take things into my own hands. STOP MB'ING WITH THE WRONG ELEMENT. (If i see one more WaterIII MB on kuftal crabs, im going to scream..)

And yes, Nothing is weak vs Stone that I know of.

Bats - Wind, Light
Bees - Ice
Beetles - Light, Ice
Birds - Ice
Bomb - Fire
Bones - Fire, Light
Bulbs - Dark, Lightning, Fire
Crabs - Lightning, Ice
Crawlers - Dark, Lightning, Ice
Dhalmels - Lightning, Wind
Dogs - Light
Fish - Lightning, Ice
Flies - Ice
Ghosts - Fire, Light
Goblins - Light
Leeches - Light, Lightning
Lizards - Wind, Ice
Mandragoras - Dark, Lightning, Fire, Wind, Ice
Mushrooms - Light
Orcs - Water
Quadavs - Lightning
Rabbits - Dark, Water, Lightning
Raptors - Water
Scorpion - Light, Ice
Shadows - Fire, Light
Sheeps - Lightning, Water
Tigers - Lightning
Weapons - Fire, Light
Worms - Wind, Light
Yagudos - Ice

I just made this quick using my own knowledge, so if I release that I missed anything, i'll edit the post.

[SlottyM]

ceourls are weak to stone,

[shuurajou]

http://www.shadow-dragons.com/magic.htm

This page has quite a nice list of elemental weaknesses and general good rules of thumb. I have this printed out.

[pcidll]

I will always water III on crabs if its Distortion. Why?
Because it ends up doing more damage than Blizzard II would anyways, even if crabs are water based. PT's should try and do Skillchains with Thunder element when fighting crabs anyway

[Andry]

Crabs are crazy resistant to Water III. Go ahead and waste your mp ;p

I'd stick with Blizzard II, till you get Blizzaga II. then the crab killing fun begins ^^ 760 was my MB record.

Thunder renkeis blah. every PT i've been in uses a Distortion renkei ><, except for this retarded PT who used Guillotine -> Pentathrust for Compression -.-

[Extreme]

Originally posted by pcidll
I will always water III on crabs if its Distortion. Why?
Because it ends up doing more damage than Blizzard II would anyways, even if crabs are water based. PT's should try and do Skillchains with Thunder element when fighting crabs anyway

Thats exactly why I made this thread.. NO.:dead:

[SlottyM]

Crabs are crazy resistant to Water III. Go ahead and waste your mp ;p

I'd stick with Blizzard II, till you get Blizzaga II. then the crab killing fun begins ^^ 760 was my MB record.

Thunder renkeis blah. every PT i've been in uses a Distortion renkei ><, except for this retarded PT who used Guillotine -> Pentathrust for Compression -.-

Sorry to burst your bubble but the first guy is right. I would water 3 too. Reason being -> Renkei effects lower a monsters resist to the element to practically 0. You'd very very very rarely get a resist no matter what you're fighting. Eventually when the only time you nuke is during lvl 3 chains, you'll just end up using your mostdamaging / efficient spell outside of a renkei, I;d agree, lwater 3 would be a waste of mp, but he specified distortion

[pcidll]

Sorry but
I understand elemental weaknesses and I will always take advantage of them. However when magic bursting , I have never noticed Blizzard 2 to be more effective on crabs than Water 3 would.

[Extreme]

Originally posted by SlottyM

Sorry to burst your bubble but the first guy is right. I would water 3 too. Reason being -> Renkei effects lower a monsters resist to the element to practically 0. You'd very very very rarely get a resist no matter what you're fighting. Eventually when the only time you nuke is during lvl 3 chains, you'll just end up using your mostdamaging / efficient spell outside of a renkei, I;d agree, lwater 3 would be a waste of mp, but he specified distortion

WaterIII when resisted will MB for 30 damage, and it is resisted at least 1/2 times unless you use elemental seal before u MB.. which is just moronic. Use BlizzagaII/BlizzardII and quit being stupid.

And no, renkei doesnt lower a monsters resist to 0.... whoever told you that is 100% wrong. You WILL get resisted 1/2, 1/3 tops.

[funhorroreyes]

well, so far up to 37, I'd say elemental weaknesses are mostly psychological anyway. You might get like a 3% difference in dmg in your nukes. I get just as many resists with blizzard on a beetle in Citadel as Water II, and supposedly a beetle is 'weak' to ice. I'm sure it will change at higher levels, but I don't worry too much about it at the moment.

Eventually, I'd like to parse my nuke dmg to see how much these weaknesses actually help, but I don't have a parser.

[ZenXIII]

Originally posted by SlottyM

Sorry to burst your bubble but the first guy is right. I would water 3 too. Reason being -> Renkei effects lower a monsters resist to the element to practically 0. You'd very very very rarely get a resist no matter what you're fighting. Eventually when the only time you nuke is during lvl 3 chains, you'll just end up using your mostdamaging / efficient spell outside of a renkei, I;d agree, lwater 3 would be a waste of mp, but he specified distortion

I know that i'm nowhere near the 73 mark...however, i haven't seen this to be true at all...when fighting Qufim Pugils i've seen quite a few magic bursts with water and most hit for pathetic (along the lines of 1) damage. This is opposed to the fact that when we burst with lightning i'll see a definite increase in the amount of damage.
I always thought you were supposed to form renkeis in parties in order to maximize your ability to burst against the monster's elemental weakness; not that the elemental weakness is independent of a static renkei damage.
I wouldn't understand why square would put in skillchains of different elements if it really didn't matter which one you used (e.g. all resists drop to near 0 in a chain) against certain monsters.
However, what i don't know about this game could probably float the titanic...

[Yuanlung]

I'm getting a little bit tired of seeing ****y blm's everywhere, so I decided to take things into my own hands. STOP MB'ING WITH THE WRONG ELEMENT. (If i see one more WaterIII MB on kuftal crabs, im going to scream..)

Well, I agree with you if it's single shots of spell, but with MB's, it's often not in the hands of the BLM. I mean, when you party goes and pulls a Reverberation on a crab, what can a BLM do? Personally, I'd just humour them and burst with a water 1. Often I would suggest to parties I am with a chain with the monster's weak element so I can burst on that, but I don't always get it, because certain melees may say "no, my other weapon skill is more powerful, so I am gonna be doing that instead."

well, so far up to 37, I'd say elemental weaknesses are mostly psychological anyway. You might get like a 3% difference in dmg in your nukes. I get just as many resists with blizzard on a beetle in Citadel as Water II

Up to where I am, I have been seeing some definate effects on elemental weakness. The difference is not in the damage. Of course your new spiffy Stone II is going to hit for more then say, plain old Fire, when its not resisted. It costs almost twice the MP!. The difference is on the damage:mp ratio. This is Fanal Fantasy. They have made elemental a big deal since day one. The whole series originally was about 4 elemental crystals.

[Scatman]

While I don't think resistance is 0, from observation only, I think MBs do lower resists. Mind you, that's lower, not remove. But like I said, it was based on observation so don't quote me on it.

[Pilsbane]

I agree with Scatman on it being lower resistance but obviously not 0 resistance. I try to nuke with Water II on IT beetles and get about 15-20 damage normally, and once in a while about 140 damage. On the other hand bursting on a Distortion with Water II over half the time does 180+ damage. Sometimes I still get a really low number like 20. When I burst with Blizzard I get 80+ almost every single time on beetles. I guess its a personal preference as to which you want to use, consistancy versus a chance of doing a lot of damage.

[Andry]

Couerls aren't weak to earth. they're only thought to be because they drop lightning crystals. have no idea what they're weak to still, but Fire is resisted less than Stone