poison, bio, rasp

[aznsky]

Ice Mage.
I do not agree on what you say.
If the Worms can Rasp and This other spell that decreses my strength they stack.

Also One of the monsters used Bio and Rasp on me and i had 2 of them at the same time

[Icemage]

Very odd. I'm not positive about the non-stacking thing, but I think the chart posted above helps to explain what my impressions were. I have had multiple spells of this type cast on me before and never had them stack, but it could be that it was just pure luck that I never had two "permissive" combinations cast (this coming from enemies like Bogys and Goblin Shamans, who have a whole battery of such spells available to them).

If someone has a chart with the interactions (and it seems they do) then I'd take their word for it. All I can say is that I've never personally seen two of those spells cast on me at the same time and have both stick - but it looks like I'm wrong in this case.

Sorry for the confusion - as always I try to provide the best information I have available to me, but it looks like my information was incorrect.

Incidentally, Bio is a totally different effect than the Choke/Drown/Rasp/Burn/Shock/Frost series, and has no overlap whatsoever. The only effect Bio conflicts with is Bio II, and vice versa.


Icemage

[Zenyx]

That chart is kinda interesting, if it's correct then you have a choice of if you want to cripple the monster's defense or cripple the monsters offense, or do not quite as many spells and do some offense and some defense, ie:

Cripple Defense:
INT down
MND down
VIT down

Cripple Offense:
Dex down
Agi down
Str down

Combo 1:
INT down
Dex down

Combo 2:
MND down
AGI down

Combo 3:
Vit Down
Str Down

(assuming I read the chart right, which I think I did)

Just thought it was interesting what things stacked.

[Coinspinner]

Originally posted by Icemage
Incidentally, Bio is a totally different effect than the Choke/Drown/Rasp/Burn/Shock/Frost series, and has no overlap whatsoever. The only effect Bio conflicts with is Bio II, and vice versa.

Aren't Bio and Dia at odds with each other too?

[Icemage]

No. The Dia series is separate from the Bio series.

Dia, Diaga, and Dia II interfere with each other, but have no effect on Bio/Bio II.


Icemage

[Calianeri]

About the Dia/Bio stacking issue... there seems to be a lot of conflicting info. I've read at least three threads about this, all with different conclusions (or none at all). Since it's hard to search for these threads, here's a link to one that's active right now.

It seems that it's possible that Dia and Bio do not stack, and that Dia will be overridden by Bio, which will be overridden by Diaga, which will be overridden by Bio II, which will be overridden by Dia II. Maybe.

[Aerius]

From Apple Pie's post in the other thread, it seems that the order of precedence for the spells is BioII > DiaII > Bio > Dia. This was apperently taken from some Japanese website some time ago. I guess they did some type of extensive research on it. I don't know either way, but I'll keep casting since it's a good way to build up Dark skills.