A few ? about BST

[Antivomit]

Re: A few ? about BST

How many pets can you have charmed at the same time? Can you use jugs of broth before lvl 23?

[samarium]

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How many pets can you have charmed at the same time? Can you use jugs of broth before lvl 23?

One and no.

-sam

P.S. But see here for a complete list of the jugs, what level they're first available to use and an estimate as to what their maximum level is. =]

[tdh]

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And If fighting a NM or BCMN do you get full loot or does the drop rate decrease like the xp does?

As Sam mentioned, there has been speculation over the years that pets take on the same subjob abilities as you do. DRG/THFs have thought that they recieved an extra Treasure Hunter with their Wyvern, but there has been no way to test this out, and could just be wishful thinking.

To date there has been no proof that Pets (Wyvern, Avatars, BST Pets jug or otherwise) of any kind have any effect on drops.

BST & RNG both have access to Wide Scan at Lv.1, however RNG Wide Scan is more powerful than BST's. RNG's Wide Scan also gets better as you level. That being said, do you notice any difference between /BST37 and /RNG37? If you do, that would be the only benefit from subing RNG for BST. If the answer is no, then as everybody else has pointed out there's no use in subing RNG. (Hell, even if the answer is yes, I still can't see this being a big enough reason to ever sub RNG for BST.)

[ItazuraNhomango]

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1.) I can't find any information on BST/RNG, good or bad, why?

I'd think BST/RNG is usable during Lv.20-29, if you're in a traditional 6/6 party--but not for range attack use.

Basically, it's for /RNG's "Accuracy Bonus" job trait, which is a free Accuracy+10. (I partied on DRG/RNG in those levels; it seemed to work ok, but hard to tell since DRG's are naturally overpowering in those levels.)

That said, in the Lv.20-29 range, there are a couple more odd subjobs which can work:

BST/NIN: Dual wield Axe for slight DoT improvement, mostly. It really shines at Lv.28, when you can dual wield Military Picks for very nice damages. Lv.24+ will also give you access to Utsusemi: Ichi for pulling--which also may be useful for staying alive when you have a bad tank who keep losing the mobs to every DD and healer.

BST/DRG: Jump and Attack Bonus; Jump gets you TP faster (and helps you do more damage), and Attack Bonus is a free Attack+10 (which also helps with damage).


Of course, solo'ing/duo'ing BST's should not be using /RNG or /DRG at all. ^_^;

Oh yeah, using /DRG or /RNG as support job will lower your invite rate to parties, since most people will think you're a noob, even though those jobs do more for a DD BST than /WAR between Lv.20-29.

(Disclaimer: My BST is only 22, and I think of BST as a boardline leech in parties before jug pets since there's really nothing around they can charm around most normal camp sites.)

[Zempten]

Re: A few ? about BST

On the topic of questions about BST . . .

What do most of you guys prefer to do?
A) Fight along side with your pet
B) Have you pet chip away mobs HP to like 10% and you finish it off yourself.

I would think that Option A would net faster exp, but I can't really tell.

I'm currently duoing with another BST and I'm trying to figure out which is the best way to go about things. Currently we're just charming Birds, Saplings and fighting Tigers and Goblins in Ballista Downs at lvl 26/27. Anyone have any advice?

Thanks again

[Aeni]

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BST/RNG would probably work best if:

1) They actually get skills in range.
2) Items to improve that.
3) Have permanent pets.
4) Have pets with provoke.

So, when all of this gets implemented...

1) SE makes the changes
2) ????
3) Profit! ... as a hunter.

[pearlsea]

Re: A few ? about BST

On the topic of questions about BST . . .
What do most of you guys prefer to do?
A) Fight along side with your pet
B) Have you pet chip away mobs HP to like 10% and you finish it off yourself.
I would think that Option A would net faster exp, but I can't really tell.

At the lower levels its hard to manage hate so you should only start meleeing once your pet has established hate but currently at 71 when i level bst i start meleeing right away and if i get hate i can just cast more shadows and by the time im finished casting my pet has hate again, pets generaly will hold hate better after level 40. But this does not apply to bombs or dolls which you should never melee unless its under 5% health, instead you should throw pets at it so you can give it tp to make it self destruct.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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What do most of you guys prefer to do?
A) Fight along side with your pet
B) Have you pet chip away mobs HP to like 10% and you finish it off yourself.

I prefer to start meleeing with my pet as long as I'm fairly sure I won't need to do another pet swap before finishing the mob. Doing Bostaunieux Oubliette from 53 - 58 was really nice. Since slimes can take a lot of punishment, I would only need one pet per mob, and could start meleeing along side it almost immediately.

I've never duo'ed, but I'm guessing that you don't need to do any pet swaps between 2 BSTs and their 2 pets all pounding on one mob. In a duo, the only reason I see not to melee along side your pets early on is if the mob does some nasty AoE moves, like Self Destruct or Meltdown.

[Haggai]

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Indeed they do - jug pets have a hidden timer. Once that timer is up the jug pet will automatically despawn, although you can force them to disappear with Leave.

Wow, you learn something new everyday.

[Zempten]

Re: A few ? about BST

Another question

From lvl 29-75, what gear (weapons and armor included) do you guys think a BST should defeintly keep at eye on?

[Liquidedust]

Re: A few ? about BST

Another question

From lvl 29-75, what gear (weapons and armor included) do you guys think a BST should defeintly keep at eye on?

Rule of thumb:
Gear as a WAR for TP + WS
Slap on CHR, AF and a Light/Apollo Staff for Charming

[Zempten]

Re: A few ? about BST

Another question.

Should I stick with Raging Axe till Rampage? Or isAvalance Axe okay as well?

[tdh]

Re: A few ? about BST

Another question.
Should I stick with Raging Axe till Rampage? Or isAvalance Axe okay as well?

As WAR I've found that Avalance Axe stunk, and that was w/ the help of Berserk. So I've been sticking w/ Raging, and doing well.

[pearlsea]

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Another question.
Should I stick with Raging Axe till Rampage? Or isAvalance Axe okay as well?

Raging axe is the best axe weaponskill till spinning axe, then once you get rampage use that for the rest of your bst carrier ^^b.

[Zempten]

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I see

One more question, sorry ; ; I just so filled up with questions.

I've looked on ffxi.somepage.com and saw this axe ,De Saintre's Axe, and i was wondering what exactly does Charm +1 mean? Is it 1%? Do any of you guys notice a difference with it?

Really appreciate all your help ^ ^ Please bare with all my questions. Thank you again!