BST at endgame?

[Icemage]

Re: BST at endgame?

If you get an alliance of BSTs together, they can take down many a thing. For example, a whole BST+SMN alliance took down Tiamat on Asura some moons ago.

Unfortunately one of the casualties of the change to Leave was making this sort of "use all charmables in the zone to defeat HNM" tactic much harder to use, since the monsters despawn instead of walking back to their spawn point (and thus not healing).

BST is great in those situations where they have a lot of natural monsters to draw strength from, but the truth is that there are only a few battlegrounds that meet those criteria.


Icemage

[neighbortaru]

Re: BST at endgame?

oh right, that was before the Leave nerf

*grumble* stupid SE nerfing our job *grumble*

[Alvilda]

Re: BST at endgame?

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/bea...ame.guide.html

Great guide to end game bst.

Theres not a ton to do in the way of HNMs and Dynamis and what not but if you dont even have the time to party I dont know where you're going to get the time to pull your weight in an end game LS.

Dont forget theres more to end game than just HNM and Dynamis... Theres also finishing rank missions, COP, Zilart, BCNM, KSNM, ws trials, etc that bst does very well and can even be done by an all bst LS.

If having a position in an end game LS is that important to you, then grab a horn a be a bard. You'll get instant invites and its not boring considering the amount of party control you have to maintain (dont forget everyone loves a bard). Might be a job to consider since you're going to have to level whm for bst anyways.

If you want to be able to have fun in the game on your own schedule without worrying about party reputation then be a bst, besides nothing wrong with having any job at 75 to help with.


just a side note: people complained about leave mpk and we all got nerfed because of that... once again a few idiots ruin everything for the rest of us

[Stooky]

Re: BST at endgame?

Thanks Alvilda. Seems bst may be the job for me. Brd has also appealed to me so I may have to check it out also, just need to decide to do somthing or I will be leveling jobs two 37 forever lol.

[Alvilda]

Re: BST at endgame?

If I may say so, bst really doesnt sound like the job for you. Bst is something you really have to be sure about because of the amount of frustration. You DONT have someone to sleep links, you WILL die often in the first 35 levels, and it IS a lonely job if you're used to the social aspect of partying. Thus, you'll find yourself more indecisive than ever.

I read a bit of your other post and although I dont agree with RDM as a job for you ("[they] really just annoy mobs to death" awesome line, wish i remember who said it) and my experience with BLU is non existent, I recommend maybe looking into NIN.

1) nin is a great sub job for end game soloing and used in some of the biggest damage dealing jobs (war, rng, thf)

2) its possible to play solo when needed since you have your enfeebles and your utsu as well as 2 quick hitting weapons. (think mnk with knives)

3) you will never be bored or out of a exp, mission, hnm, dynamis, etc mission LS or party

4) DD + Tank + enfeebler = ninja

[Stooky]

Re: BST at endgame?

maybe, but I did not enjoy nin when I leveled it, but who knows maybe I should give it a second try.

[Taskmage]

Re: BST at endgame?

"[they] really just annoy mobs to death"

Hahaha XD Yes, I suppose that is a pretty accurate description of what we do. :3

To the OP, I recommend you don't stress about your level and long-term prospects so much. The game doesn't have to be about getting to 75 and grinding endgame unless that's what you really want. Someone wise once said “Play the job you enjoy the most. There's no point in being level 75 if you detest playing your job.” If it's not clear to you what job you should play, maybe you just haven't stumbled across it yet. There's nothing wrong with continuing to level things up to 37 until you find something you fall in love with.

[Alvilda]

Re: BST at endgame?

Play the job you enjoy the most. There's no point in being level 75 if you detest playing your job.” If it's not clear to you what job you should play, maybe you just haven't stumbled across it yet. There's nothing wrong with continuing to level things up to 37 until you find something you fall in love with.

Couldn't have said that better myself.

Also, the best thing about FFXI is that you can change jobs at any time, so you dont have to go 1-75 and then try something else. Declare your main and if something else interests you for a brief moment, give it a try until you're bored of it or start missing your main. Perfect example of such is I like to level rng when I have a rare day off of feel like being social for a change... gear might not be interchangeable with bst, but at least the subs are. (other interchangeable jobs could be anything that would use a whm, nin, or war sub... so the sky is the limit)

[Stooky]

Re: BST at endgame?

I cant find a job i like thats why im broken lol... yeah. I just want to find somthing i can level past 37, nothing i have played i have enjoyed so I just do not know what to do =_=. I love ffxi and I dont want to quit I just need to find whats right for me lol ><

[Alvilda]

Re: BST at endgame?

I'm not entirely sure why you're so in love with FFXI if theres not a single job you've played that you really enjoy. All the jobs in this game have been balanced to be co-dependant on each other and if you find that the job classes arent any fun then maybe its time to rethink if your monthly fees are not being wasted.

Though the solo aspect to BST is great, it is a labour of love. The path to 35 is a long one, if you think that there will not be long hours spent leveling, multiple deaths, and days you wonder why you're even doing this job you've definitely got another thing coming. I'm not trying to deter you, but it sounds like you want a job that can be easy and convenient to level, has good-great damage potential, and is wanted by parties and LS's all throughout the game. Honestly, you might have more fun in something like WoW, guild wars, or if your system is good enough, Oblivion because as far as i know there is nothing like that in ffxi

[piroko]

Re: BST at endgame?

I can't find a job I like either, that's why I desided, instead of doing end game, I'll just level all the jobs to (atleast) 60 and collect AFs ^^ 3/18 so far.

I found out through leveling, it's not a job that I specifically like, but the leveling process itself~ The mindless grinding I acutally enjoy (suprisingly).

It isn't broken to not be able to pick a specific job. I love FFXI for this because I could switch to something else when I feel like leveling a different job.

Besides, you're only 37, a long way till you should be looking at end game.

Play the game and enjoy playing different jobs and take things easy.

[Stooky]

Re: BST at endgame?

I will try, thinking of quiting(again), nothing seems fun lol . I like leveling and when nothing is fun to level I am then bored. I can not find somthing I enjoy so I do not know maybe ffxi is not for me.

[RunningDemon]

Re: BST at endgame?

Like most people say, if you want to be in the killing PTs all the time, be a BRD or something.

BST is awesome at endgame, but people fail to see anything more than spike numbers. Leaving a BST in a whole Kirin fight, and the pet and BST will out damage most anything. Problem is that most LSs are all about the spike damage. Still, I have smacked some 1k+ rampages, and almost have /THF and Spiral Hell done for some fun SATA hate plants. In sea organ farming or Ulli/Faust/etc, you are as good or better than all other DDs.

In Limbus you are a good DD as well since the mobs are not that tough and CCs will beat them senseless. As for dynamis, you can sub THF/WAR/NIN and straight up DD, or /WHM and heal a PT in ANY zone. (People who doubt /WHM healing power are idiots, I have /WHMed with Bison gear, not breaking 300 MP, and successfully healed PTs of 5 DDs in all 6 original zones)

[Thoronas]

Re: BST at endgame?

/WHM and heal a PT in ANY zone. (People who doubt /WHM healing power are idiots, I have /WHMed with Bison gear, not breaking 300 MP, and successfully healed PTs of 5 DDs in all 6 original zones)

The leaders of my Dynamis LS told me to lot whm af2 since they thought I was a whm with all the healing I was doing.