Bst as a DD...?

[Stooky]

Ok, well with all my struggaling trying to pick a job to level im going to try bst. I came to ffxi form Ragnarok online which for a majority of a time you solo unless you did not have money then you partied with a healer. So I think I may like to try bst since I just solo and level at my own pase. But im wondering if I will be able to ever party and exp that way. If I deck my self out with as much str gear and best wepons at my level will I be able to put out good damage? Also, is nin actualy a good sub for soloing or should I stick with the normal /whm? Sorry if this was more questions than I expected To have.
-Stooky

EDIT: Also, I would like to know if I will not party at all, if I can be a pretty good DD along side my pet. Thanks!

[DakAttack]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

I can give you the basics, but there's a lot of resources you've left untapped here in the Bst forums.

First of all, it's an advanced job, which means you'll have to take a job to thirty before you can unlock it. You'll either want to take Warrior or White Mage to thirty, or possibly both. Warrior will need a Monk sub, and White Mage will need a Black Mage sub. That will cover one or two of your possible subs for Beastmaster. The third is Ninja, which will require a Warrior sub, so you could possibly kill two birds with one stone there. White Mage and Ninja are the most important subs, but Warrior can and often does come in handy.

You'll probably find you can do a lot of partying, but usually with other Bst, and possibly Smn or Drg. Normal parties will probably skip over you unless you're the only other person seeking, but it's definately possible to level in a normal party once you have access to jugged pets.

You'll rarely want to fight alongside your pet, they're terrible at holding hate so you'll just get yourself killed. Generally you let your pet do the fighting, replace if necessary, or let it die and finish the monster off. Eventually you'll be able to release your pet with one simple command, and beat down the enemy without the EXP penalty.

You can equip almost everything a Dark Knight and Warrior can equip, so you can definately make for a fine damage dealer if you're subbing Ninja and are using a HQ pet.

[Stooky]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Thanks, well for the first part of that I have war and nin level 37. I have not been able to pick a job two level for two months lol. Well i guess I will level whm then start bst =/. Well thanks thats more or less what I wanted to know. Also I am considering to level drk and drg and I need to find more about those. Lol...

[little ninja]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Nin vs Whm have there pro's an cons. most bst early on take /whm as there sub. i even have alot of bst friends who just hit 75 an just now started to lvl their nin. My choice was always /whm. since most mobs tend to have some sort of AoE atk, or statu effect such as paralyze, or poison. but the biggest factor is way faster to cure yourself an restore your MP. then it is to heal yourself to full health.

Actually you will find that the best parties you will ever be in are all bst, or a mix of bst an smns. i think as early as the 30's i was seeing 6-8k with no exp ring. So when you lvl bst always seek, you never know when you will get another invite from a bst or smn. as for conventional parties, i actually new a few former players who lvled bst in exp parties til the 50's. of course he built 99% of them. but it can be done. an alot of Bsts think this is against the code of the bst.

You can fight along side your pet as long as you know what you are doing, Some mobs you can fight along side your pet with from start to finish. sometimes you have to wait for your second pet swap before you can fight with your pet. the rule of thumb is the let your pet land its first 3-4 atks before you join in on the fight. When you get 35 you learn leave. then you can leave the pet when the mob has 1% hp, an WS it for full exp .

Gear wise you can wear almost anything the war or drk can wear. so you can be a decent DD. then you can also add in a jug pet for the added DD,

[Stooky]

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Well thanks. I would love to try bst but It seems I may be quting soon. I have not been able to pick a job to level and even now Im not sure abut bst and I can not level like this. But its good to know that bst is rather versitile. After two months of playing and 500 hours of game play and not being able to choose a job it sort of ruins the game. But if i ever start up again I will try bst. thanks!

[Shep]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

I can give you the basics, but there's a lot of resources you've left untapped here in the Bst forums.

First of all, it's an advanced job, which means you'll have to take a job to thirty before you can unlock it. You'll either want to take Warrior or White Mage to thirty, or possibly both. Warrior will need a Monk sub, and White Mage will need a Black Mage sub. That will cover one or two of your possible subs for Beastmaster. The third is Ninja, which will require a Warrior sub, so you could possibly kill two birds with one stone there. White Mage and Ninja are the most important subs, but Warrior can and often does come in handy.

You'll probably find you can do a lot of partying, but usually with other Bst, and possibly Smn or Drg. Normal parties will probably skip over you unless you're the only other person seeking, but it's definately possible to level in a normal party once you have access to jugged pets.

You'll rarely want to fight alongside your pet, they're terrible at holding hate so you'll just get yourself killed. Generally you let your pet do the fighting, replace if necessary, or let it die and finish the monster off. Eventually you'll be able to release your pet with one simple command, and beat down the enemy without the EXP penalty.

You can equip almost everything a Dark Knight and Warrior can equip, so you can definately make for a fine damage dealer if you're subbing Ninja and are using a HQ pet.

I fight alongside my pets all the time. They can hold hate if you know what you're doing. If you happen to get hate, you just turn your back to the mob til your pet gets hate again.

[pearlsea]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Personaly im more of a DD bst then a soloer, id rather party getting faster safer and more fun xp then soloing and with a jug pet i can keep up with most other dd, the only downsides is that unless you create your own partys you will rarely get invited because of the bst solo stereotype and DD gear is extreamly expensive. If bst isent a DD then why can we equip a hauby and most other heavy DD gear.

When im forced to solo i solo as bst/nin with full DD gear and do ok with pretty low downtime unless there are links/misscharm/premature uncharm/massive AoE (i dont target these mobs so its rarely an issue(excluding bombs ).

[Omni]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

didnt we tell you to play blu or rdm in another thread? you arent following orders soldier!

in all seriousness, is it that you dont like the job you are currently playing or is it you envy other jobs? if its the former i understand what you mean, if its the latter, you really just need to stick things through.

jobs in levels 1-50 do not do any justice to itself. jobs dont come into their own fully till after 60 imo. thats when the real playing begins. if you cant get through the grind then im sorry to hear that. i hope you find good gaming else where if you do decide to leave.

good luck.

[nazlfrag]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

I love bst in partys. Firstly, with a jug pet out they are superb damage dealers. As a bonus to this, you get a great combo of puller, link control and DD, something other jobs can't match. Thf/rng make good puller + DD, brd/rdm can pull+link control but none does all three as nicely as bst.

Back on topic, I've heard drg do OK soloing as well, just not as well as bst. On the upside they are invited to party more than bst. I've had only one party with my lvl 18 drg, and usually solo EM-T instead, though I don't know how long this will last. It works well early at least, but requires a mage sub.

For subbing only /nin to bst, it should be possible. HP regen and status cure items are your friend here, preferably using cooking and alchemy skills or you can just buy them straight up. With Utsusemi this will become less of an issue, but that's a while away for a lvl 1 bst.

Simply resting at the start of the fight (outside possible AoE range), then joining later should be suficcient early on, just bring antidotes for poison and hp regen drinks (selbina milk is cheap from vendors) for dia/rasp etc. Later, echo drops to cure silence will be needed for your ninja magic. You can ignore most other status effects. My bst is only lvl 10 *blush* so these are only beginners tips, though I sub /rdm or /blu which also lack status cures.

Anyway, with war and nin to 37 you should be able to try any melee job and get a feel for it.

[LadyKiKi]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

DRG can solo well, not on anything Even Matched and over though at later/higher end levels. As nazlfrag pointed out, at lower levels it works great. I soloed to 75 from 1 myself, and took BST to 31 last weekend with not too much effort. BST can solo for better/faster EXP, while DRG outlasts their monsters with healing breaths and high damage output. On roughly 21000 EXP a WEEK (3000 EXP a DAY) (due to my schedule), along with the Escort Quests, ENM, Lost Chocobo races, I was able to solo to 75 without partying in roughly 10 months.

[RunningDemon]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

DRG/BLU can solo the T Puks pretty easily, even can duo with any other job They need to have the Loquacious? earring (damage-->MP) and some relic or AF+1 armors, since foot kick is 5 MP and near instacast, and triggers HB. But I duo with a DRG friend all the time on Puks and let him tank so he can cap his parry while I cap my various weapons. We can pull chain 5-6 easy in Thickets the times I use axes, and 4-5 easy when I am skilling things like scythe.

[Stooky]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Thanks alot ^^" Bst may be a job for me since my scheduel will change when school starts and that means way less ffxi. Also it just seem fun. Thanks for the information everyone.

[Skoal]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Runnigdemon you are thinking of the Ethereal Earring.

[little ninja]

Re: Bst as a DD...?

Thanks alot ^^" Bst may be a job for me since my scheduel will change when school starts and that means way less ffxi. Also it just seem fun. Thanks for the information everyone.

Thats exactly why i picked bst up myself. it was to the point, do i stop playing a game i still like. or try the only job class that can be productive in the few hours i have.

an it was great, i used to log off in a camp. come on for 45 mins here an there. an i was able to pick up exp very fast.