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**DBurks2818** · 03-17-2004, 10:07 PM

Did you just post this exact message on GameFAQs? ^^

**FerralXenobia** · 03-17-2004, 10:21 PM

At higher levels, how useless are you? So you've solo'ed your way to 75, good job. But you can't do any of the awesome things like fighting the Gods right? Or you can but the party might be better off with another Job.

All I have to say is wow...i guess you havent seen Stephen in action..I could provide you with numerous answers but I think the higher lev BSTs should definately erase these notions from your mind with thier own personal experience instead of me.

**kilfrg7864** · 03-18-2004, 12:07 AM

can't at higher lvls, arnt decent challenges neearly impossible to solo? If thast true, the familiar will still be buff, and proally will still win over another class the same level if there was pvp.

**Mikeb** · 03-18-2004, 02:42 AM

Some of the +1 Familiars are quite powerful... At higher lvls a decent challenge pet is quite strong compared to players... A high lvl Bst equipped with heavy armour, the best weapons, best broth pets, etc..., is going to be a very strong party member (at lvl ~30 with a broth pet I can match most other melee chars for damage output, with a strong Even Match pet I can exceed them). Gotta love when your pet does a special move for 300+ damage

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**Keftenk** · 03-18-2004, 05:52 AM

Re: My BST Dilema...

At higher levels, how useless are you? So you've solo'ed your way to 75, good job. But you can't do any of the awesome things like fighting the Gods right? Or you can but the party might be better off with another Job.

Fighting the gods? There are gods in this game? Wheres Altana!!! WHERE

; Lets just say....2 lv 61 BST's can duo a lv 70HNM, 1 BST and 1 BLM or WHM that are very skilled can duo Shadowlord.......BST is very very overpowered if the BST is incredibly talented. Which really doesn't make the job overpowered, just used to its fullest.

I've heard Bst's can solo some HNMs which is pretty amazing but that seems to be the only awesome thing about being a high lvl Bst. I can't imagine trying to find a PT to do the Shadowlord...

We will just say that my Courier Carrier outdamaged a Galka Samurai's regular hits ^^ I have at least convinced some of the higher lv's on my server that I can out damage a lot of jobs :D Yet, FungusFamiliar's Silence Gas and Dark Spore is just compelte rape -- 600-1100 dmg with Sic :D Take that Shadow Lord :D

You say familiars right? Well I hear they suck...or only up to Decent Challenge mobs. Would these be useful in say a Shadowlord fight or a God fight?

Would you please define "God" fight? Cause...there are HNM's, Avatars, Dynamis fights, but no gods. FungusFamiliar apparently doesn't have a cap of when you use it, so if you use it at lv 75, you have a lv 73-75 FungusFamiliar. However, I have heard it caps at lv 65. CourierCarrier doesn't cap either, so thats a lv 75 semi/meat shielding crab. Also, the Black Mandragora doesn't cap. Thats three creatures that don't cap that basically act like a second BST with better abilities.

Last thing, I've come to the conclusion that Bst does not need a monster Signa. You probably aren't supposed to be charming anything really high level and any other CHR ups can be made with rings and capes and such right?

Of course BST doesn't need a Monster Signa, but by god...it helps so much when try charming a type 2 charm, I.E. Cactuar, Jelly, Skink, etc. or when you need to charm something that is tough or higher that you don't think you could charm. It's EXTREMLEY handy when you do BCNM40's and 70's. You probably really don't need it though till maybe lv 30+ Bigbirdd has gone without one so far, yet he tends to die a lot..........a lot, rofl

**Trimpton** · 03-18-2004, 10:46 AM

I think he means Kirin by "God" fight.

**Keftenk** · 03-18-2004, 11:02 AM

how can he? he made God plural, meaning more than one..............................................

**sudo** · 03-18-2004, 12:50 PM

Check out mystery tour's mission guides for higher rank areas and the zihlert missions which includes a trip to Ro'meav or if you wanna take a gander quick, just look at region info, just north of quifm in that funky named zone, Tu'lia or something (I hate spelling)

The hall of the gods will lead to the floating island in the sky and where the gods of vanadiel sit and wait to rape lv 75 alliances.

Check out Kirin, he is called a god in the game.

To walk there, go to crag Mea > north to meth. Mountains > north east corner of the map to sanctuary of zita > straight north to Ru'an where you will find a door that you can't open till you do that mission (can't remember which number)

As of yet, I don't think you can fight Altena, but dang, at least you get that beat up that damn she-male duke of jeuno.

I wonder if they'll ever have a fight against the Star Sybil???

**Keftenk** · 03-18-2004, 12:59 PM

lol, i know how to get there, what Ru Aun Gardens is and crap, but everyone our server refers to them as HNM's ~~;; ah well

**myDingling** · 03-18-2004, 09:16 PM

Update: Lvl4 BST :D I even had a small "moment" when i got aggroed by a yagudo in midbattle, quickly tamed a crawler to fight it, gained about 40hp back and beat it. good times

I already have a monster signa and was gonna use it to fund my Drk but I'm keeping it now. Bst has been really so far and I think I can make a decent party member at 60 with Drk sub and some pets.

And yeah God fights are some crazy shiz I've read about. HNMs i usually think of as being the really rare high lvl NM spawns like Serket or Baldruf

**Keftenk** · 03-19-2004, 04:45 AM

meh, ok whatever.

anyways if you plan on subbing BST, just keep in mind that you will always be loosing xp from every battle if you have a pet out till lv 70 when you get release for your DRK.

**Celeras** · 03-19-2004, 11:39 AM

Gods refer to the Orc/Yagudo/Quadav Gods, and numerous other enemies.. but yes they are refered to as gods, and yes bst's are useless during those fights. All those fights are is a bunch of plds running around, then mages nuking from far away. The second you let the target settle long enough to get a melee attack in.. someone dies.

**FerralXenobia** · 03-19-2004, 12:24 PM

and yes bst's are useless during those fights

After reading this and considering it, i noticed one thing which made me wonder about another. The first think I noticed is that you only have leveled the BST job to 15, which answered my first question which was are you speaking from the experience of fighting a god as a BST. The second question is have you ever actually fought a god with a BST in the PT or seen one fight? Or is your opinion that BSTs are useless in these fights a wild hypothesis you came up with based on the 15 levels of BST experience you have? If so I dont think you could really judge how a high lev BST would fair in a fight like this only really experiencing the BST job in its infant state at 15.

**Celeras** · 03-20-2004, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by FerralXenobia

After reading this and considering it, i noticed one thing which made me wonder about another. The first think I noticed is that you only have leveled the BST job to 15, which answered my first question which was are you speaking from the experience of fighting a god as a BST. The second question is have you ever actually fought a god with a BST in the PT or seen one fight? Or is your opinion that BSTs are useless in these fights a wild hypothesis you came up with based on the 15 levels of BST experience you have? If so I dont think you could really judge how a high lev BST would fair in a fight like this only really experiencing the BST job in its infant state at 15.

All melee are useless during the Big HNM fights... yes all. There is no tanking of any kind to speak of with the really strong ones (king behemoth), Tanks run around and keep the thing moving, while mages nuke from a safe distance. What is the Bst going to run behind the enemy with a pet, waiting for a momentary spot to get a hit in? Well sorry, if it stops, and ur trying to hit it, ur already dead (again, king behemoth example). And if anyone wanted to do that, there are better damage dealing jobs to do it.

Only time a bst could be useful is to tame something that gets in the way... and in the case of gods, which are mostly beastmen, you cant tame that anyway. Sure, you can fight the weak HNM like Behemoth and such, and be just another melee... but thats all.

Are they useful for god fights? No. Can they do it if they REALLY REALLY wanted to, and sorta half-ass leech? Sure! If you do go hunt, your going to be a filler, since you can be replaced by 4 different melee jobs that deal better damage then you. Sorry Bud, Bst's are the best solo'ers for a reason. Can't have it both ways.

You asked, I answered, dont get sore at me because you dont like the answer.

[edit] Yes I've seen bst's fight some HNM, they just tame / call something, then go whack away... which wont work for the harder HNM's.

[edit NUMERO DOS] Btw this doesnt apply to an 18x bst alliance.. that i would love to see:sweat:

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