How do you think Beast Tamers will do in a PvP scenerio

[Crug]

personaly i think how well a bst would do in pvp is dependant on how pvp is done.

the way i would like to see it done is opt in and out aswell as lvl based. meaning you would have to go talk to a npc to participate this eliminates a good bit of the pk factor. and you put in a lvl restriction of say 5 lvls. that means a lvl 75 could not sit out side of a loading zone and take out wanabe pvpers before they have a chance. it think there should be a arena for sport. but the way i see them puting pvp in to the game is the nations will go to war. meaning that a majority of pvp will take place out in the battle feild.

in a arena situation the bst will be at a major disadvantage. but out in the feild we will be in our element. just think of it. hunting your prey harrassing him/her with monsters untill he/she is weak then coming in for the kill.

[Rawdog]

I think BST would definitely be the worst in PVP...well, okay WHM is probably worse (but still useful for healing). Even if you could tame animals during a pvp fight it would not help you. All the player has to do is kill YOU and forget about the tamed monster. This can be done with one or two spells from a blm, a few shots from a ranger, even a warrior could take a bst down pretty quickly. I am not sure if the tamed animal would become untamed and stop attacking when the bst is dead, but the player could just run away afterward.

The difference between PvP and PK is this:
PvP would be players that fight against one another for a cause, such as in DAoC where players fight to capture relics, and in Shadowbane where it is to invade or protect cities. PK would be players killing one another without cause, or just for the pleasure and loot.
Since they will have to make the PvP in a way that players are not required to participate, I think it will take place in seperate PvP zones, probably 3 (1 near each major city).

[PhoR]

I think you misunderstand the pvp system. Or perhaps they shouldn't have used the acronym "PVP". Anywho, from what I have pried out of Devs, players will not be killing each other. Plain and simple.

This may change before they finally release the pvp system, but as of right now, PVP will not include players killing other players. It will be some sort of competition between parties.

hope that clears things up a little.

have fun!

[Rawdog]

I am sure players will be allowed to kill one another somehow. We already have a conquest system, and if that is what they consider PvP to be, then they would have just said something like "conquest enhancement/expansion."

[KingTonberryIV]

i dont know if a player could really ignore a pet and attack the beastmaster and kill it before it killed me. fighting even matches, i would find that my hp would be down to the yellow at least. with the beastmaster also swing his axe, i think the beastmaster would win. with thee beastmaster, thats two things fighting you. and i am not sure if you would really be able to take out a beastmaster like you said in a couple of hits. the blm has a huge casting time for the magic that can actually do that, and ranger would have to kill the guy before both the monster and the beastmaster close in on him, which time he could fire about 2 shots. this wont kill the beastmaster.


but we are all guessing here, noone can say for sure what may happen

[Crug]

how ever pvp is done it will be interesting to see how things work out.

but if it is true pvp stratagy will come in to play when it comes to bst. they type of monster you charm would probly be a deciding factor. im not only talking about lvl but what skills it has. now mind you i am still a good bit away from geting sic (dreams of the day) but having your monster debuff and weaken your oponet. so you can come in for the kill.


now if its fun pvp. the bst will definatly come in to play. a group of 6 bst can have 6 pets 6+6=12 vs a 6 member group.

i can almost see it in my minds eye a group of bst's raviging a area with a small army of monsters in tow

[Keftenk]

hell, a 6man pt...that would probably stand up to a lot of fights...if the monsters dont debuff or weaken the enemies then the bst's themselves can have some fun with it, depending on their sub ;P and, you debuff a bst/whm, all they have to do is use erase ~~;

[Bigbird]

Dont worry BST's are the underdogs that are gona rock everyones world when pvp comes around.

An Even match pet with a BST using his 2 hr on it and Pet food = unstopable to any job of equal level.

[Bamce Sylph]

if pvp is out in the open choice of zones is paramount. if a bst were to be caught in a low lv zone like 20ish lvls below his lv and all tameables were weak, then the pet could be completely ignored

[Antwan_3000]

Originally posted by Bamce Sylph
if pvp is out in the open choice of zones is paramount. if a bst were to be caught in a low lv zone like 20ish lvls below his lv and all tameables were weak, then the pet could be completely ignored

well even in a lower level zone, a well-prepard BST can still use familiars created from various jugs (assuming that he/she is at least lvl 23). these familiars have lvl caps (for ex: a lvl 23 familiar, a lvl 33 familiar, and etc.) so it still depends on what lvl the players are....

so if a BST master is fighting someone of caparable lvl to his familiar (plus he may have the option of using his 2-hour which will increase the level of his pet), then it's still a scenerio of "2 vs. 1". in a "2 on 1" match-up, i'll be betting on the BST.....