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  • Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

    Hi All.

    Was just looking at the changes to BRD in this patch and I am stunned at what S.E. have elected to do.

    1) Troubadour - Doubles effect of songs at the cost of 1.5x casting time.
    Square Enix just gave us our two hour ability (well almost) on a recast timer less than 2 hours.

    2) Nightingale - Halves casting and recast time of songs
    If we can learn both traits this is just insane. just use (1) followed by Nightingale to negate the +50% speed decrease.

    Whilst I think BRD has totally come out top on this update, closely followed by THF (who has been long due a reward for getting THF to 75) I can't help but feel that BRD will be adjusted again in the future.

    What does everyone else think?
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    Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

    Don't really think it's overpowered... think of it as a second 2HR, but lv75 onry.

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    • #3
      Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

      The 2 hour affects every song you cast for 2 minutes. Most likely, this ability only applies to the next song you cast. While it should be powerfull... it is a merited ability, isn't that the point?

      Most of the jobs got very powerful abilities or spells. I don't think it is out of line at all. It shouldn't make us any more in demand then we already are, really.


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      • #4
        Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

        Sounds pretty leveled to me, they are the true buffers in this game after all, they deserve it
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        • #5
          Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

          I do have one question though. Will this and the 2 hours stack? Could you throw up your 2 hour and then this ability to give a song x4?


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          • #6
            Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

            XD...

            Absolute Virtue just went "WTF!"
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            • #7
              Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

              Originally posted by Regenshire
              I do have one question though. Will this and the 2 hours stack? Could you throw up your 2 hour and then this ability to give a song x4?
              Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. I guess somebody is just gonna have to try it. Sadly it wont be me as once again S.E placed this maintenance from 6pm to erm... whenever it finally finishes... UK time so I wont get to play for another 18 hours when I get back from work.
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                Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                Elegy
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                • #9
                  Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                  I wonder if Troubadour will work with Ballad...
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                  • #10
                    Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                    Troubador only increases the length Oh well I like Nightingale(sp?)
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                    • #11
                      Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                      Length? GG SE, way to get our hopes up by tricking us with a somewhat correct help message yet totally incorrect.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                        Confirmed with LS mates who purchased it. Troubadour doubles duration, not effect. Very bad help text translation there.


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                        • #13
                          Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                          Now I'm glad I got Nightingale first. But I can see using SV + Troubadore for extra long effect. Perhaps pop SV, sing songs as normal, then recast with Troubadore + Nightingale before SV wears off.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                            I'm not really seeing the point of Nightingale. Endgame bards already have access to a fair amount of fast cast gear (Shi'ar Manteel, Rostrum Pumps, Loquacious Earring), and even the slowest songs only take 8 seconds to cast.

                            Considering the 1+ second it takes to activate Nightingale, you save what? 2-3 seconds off the casting time of one song? What sort of situation is so critical that a buff song taking effect 2-3 seconds slower is going to make or break you?

                            I think the two new songs are actually more powerful than either of the job abilities.


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                            • #15
                              Re: Have Square Enix gone too far with the latest BRD changes?

                              Well, that is dissipointing. Ah well.


                              REGENSHIRE / CARBUNCLE SERVER - TheAMC Linkshell / Creator of The Final Fantasy Opera & Seeds of Discord
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