Monster Signa or elemental Staff?

[Vilurum]

If I'm remembering right, minuet is fire, minne is earth, madrigal is lightning, and mambo is wind. Paeons, ballads, requiems, lullabies, finale, all light. Elegies are earth, threnodies and carols are one of each element. Etudes are one of each element except dark. I forget what elements march and prelude are.

I think that covers all our useful and almost-useful songs.

[Kweh]

Could you imagine carrying a specific elemental staff AND instrument for each song played? We'd need a gobbiebag VIII :D

I purchased the Light Staff again last night, mainly focusing on its Lullaby landing, and it WAS more successful than when I had Signa. I had 5 out of 6 lullaby land. Requiem got resisted only once if I recollect aswell.

[Gbz]

I tried it on Peryton's (big birds in Valley of Sorrows) and it was 3/3 Resists ; ;. Maybe they have 100% resist to Requiem??

I have a light staff, +51chr, +10 windskill. :confused:

[ProFoolie]

Brief Test

Our guild BLM lent me a fire staff while we were farming Ose/skilling up today, the brief results:

Minuet 4 with +2 instrument, Monster Signa: +53 atk
Minuet 4 with +2 instrument, Fire staff +65 atk

didn't get to play with it any more, but there IS a numerical difference for using elemental staves

my next purachases:
Fire staff (Minuet)
Wind staff (Madrigal)
Earth staff (Elegy)
Light staff (Lullaby)
..... i miss having money

ps. I'm colorblind, so i likely got some of those elements wrong, please correct.

[Shamaru]

It's very interesting that Fire staff add like +22% ATK on Minuet. It might be difficult to check Wind staff vs. Madrigal effectiveness though. Anyhow do you mind carry some more test with Elegy ^^? I would rather know that it does help %slow and resist rate (thought just resist rate only is worth using it)

:gbz
As Peryton drops Light crystal, I assume they are strong to our Light Requiem and Lullaby as well compare to Dark crystal mobs like ZV demons which I've never had any resists on Lullaby. Why don't you go test on some "neutral" mobs like Crab, Crawler or Fly ^^?

[Gbz]

we have to get all those staves too?

If they really make a huge diff., they might be worth it

"Why don't you go test on some "neutral" mobs like Crab, Crawler or Fly ^^?"

I sleep those pretty easily, pretty much 100% on those. I just thought Light Staff would make lullaby a little bit easier to land on mobs with high resist. I have yet to test it out in Tu'Lia though.

[Kweh]

I dont think i have ever successfully slept a Peryton. Even when I tried it with Soul Voice + Bewitching .

I'm gonna buy a Fire Staff aswell after hearing its results with Minuet.

I'm so glad Bards get to use these staves, they are some cool looking weapons.

[Gbz]

I meant Requiem but i have slept perytons before with little or no resists when it wasn't VT to me anymore.

I'm gonna test out Light Staff and Light carol to see if these staves are worth investing in to.

[Vilurum]

Note to self: borrow friend's earth staff, test minne, and if it boosts it, cry at the money I'll need for a set of elemental staves.

[Asao]

Earth Staff ---> Elegy

When fighting Lizards at RancorDen, I've noticed that I got less resists when using an Earth Staff. On one mob I got resisted 3 times in a row with a monster signa, whereas with the Earth Staff if I did get resisted, the second elegy would always stick.

Light Staff
This seems to maximize the lullaby sleep duration on IT mobs as I tested it out on links in RancorDen.
I also noticed a very high success rate for threnodies and requiem.

[Gbz]

Dark Carol is light element... and with light staff I got about 15points more for defense against dark. Dark threnody is also light and I landed it quite often on a NM in Tu'Lia (Faust). Before I cannot land any sort of threnody on it.

Heres a funny thing tho. Bewitching etude is light element but light staff didnt have an effect on it. Maybe they have no effect on increasing stat songs?

I dont think ill be getting all of them though. Most likely i will be getting staves for madrigal, mambo and elegy. The light staff is great, like a 2 for 1 deal. You can heal for more and land lullaby.

[Vilurum]

Well, stat songs give such a small boost that the increase from the staff may not be able to push it up another point.

[Bamce Sylph]

i think the only non offensive songs i've ever used are ballad, ballad2, minuet/madrigal, paeon has been replaced with seal/curaga, and regen, so i often just double ballad in downtime.

i think i need to get started in hardcore farming,

[Trizzy]

Our guild BLM lent me a fire staff while we were farming Ose/skilling up today, the brief results:

Minuet 4 with +2 instrument, Monster Signa: +53 atk
Minuet 4 with +2 instrument, Fire staff +65 atk

didn't get to play with it any more, but there IS a numerical difference for using elemental staves

I have not found there to be any bonus with fire staff after testing it with Minuet 3. Profoolie you did take into account that the fire staff has +10 attack and +4str? I think that explains your 12 attack boost Take that into account before you run out and buy a fire staff!

I do however feel the light helps with Lullaby. . In Castle Z today did not get 1 resist on the coffer key droppers.

[Asao]

Tested out ice staff...

With Sage etude it did not do anything

However with baraero, I noticed it gave an extra +15 pts to resists. My whm friend who I borrowed the staff from also tested baraero and it raised it by 15 pts as well. Im starting to wonder if the staves really do affect pt/self spells like minuet or madrigal.