Monster Signa or elemental Staff?

[Yukk]

Which would you recommend for a brd/whm?

[Aniga]

Both. Macro in the Signa for Threnody/Elegy/Lullaby/Requiem, and macro in the Light Staff for Cure III.

Assuming you can only afford one, Signa.

[Rekiem]

Im tempted into buying a Earth staff to go with Minstrel earring. Darksteel Harness and maybe a Jelly ring. Could try some funny stuff D:

[vinwcc]

This come from Jp website: http://bdbk.s41.xrea.com/verification/0006.html

75/37 Bard/whm tested Lullaby on Aura Statue 20 times

Light Staff 14 success, 2 resist, 4 sleep last half duration
Without Light Staff 5 success, 8 resist, 7 sleep last half duration

This come from :http://bdbk.s41.xrea.com/verification/0004.html

73/36 Bard/whm (singing skill 219 , wind 218, base cha 68)
tested Lullaby on Aura Butler 50 times each in different skill level and char.


singing229・wind232・CHR+34：success rate76%(38/50)
singing219・wind232・CHR+34：success rate78%(39/50)
singing229・wind219・CHR+34：success rate70%(35/50)
singing219・wind219・CHR+34：success rate70%(35/50)
singing219・wind232・CHR+00：success rate56%(28/50)
singing224・wind219・CHR+00：success rate50%(25/50)
singing219・wind219・CHR+00：success rate48%(24/50)
singing229・wind232・CHR+34：success rate88%(44/50) Light day
singing229・wind232・CHR+34：success rate72%(36/50) Dark day


wind219
CHR050(-18) 44%
CHR060(-08) 50%
CHR070(+02) 50%
CHR080(+12) 54%
CHR090(+22) 60%
CHR100(+32) 72%
CHR110(+42) 74%
CHR125(+57) 74%

wind232
CHR070(+02) 60%
CHR080(+12) 66%
CHR090(+22) 76%
CHR100(+32) 78%
CHR109(+41) 74%

[maytrix]

And to point to all that science crap is...?

[Shamaru]

Those elemental staffs have hidden effects. One is it reduces elemental spell mp usage, included avatar (Fire staff > Ifrit, Wind staff > Garuda, so and so). Another effect is it strengten elemental spells/songs. My BLM buddy informed me that he got 10-15% more dmg by swapping staves relate to his nuke.

For BRD, most of our offensive songs are Light base (Lullaby, Requiem). So Light staff would be most benifitial to our duty (not just +% cure). Thanks vinwcc for data confirmed that Light staff doess help on Lullaby (and it seems much more noticable than +4 more CHR from Signa ). Another nice staff to have is Earth staff for help landing Elegy.

Just hope the price won't be jacked up before I could afford these staves >.<

[Bamce Sylph]

neat, i didn't know staves affected bard songs, thought it was only accual spells

[Rekiem]

I've been searching a little and on MysteryTour and Alakazham, they indicate that Elegy is a Light spell but when you look ingame, the icon is yellow/brown, meaning that its a earth spell. I'm confused, what element is Elegy? I don't wanna be using a staff that has no effect on it ._.

[Xerlic]

It's probably earth. I'd trust the game over a website. MysteryTour probably labelled it as light by mistake, and Ala prolly just copied them. But toting around an Earth staff just for one type of song? That's a lot of gil to spend just to increase the rate at which Elegy sticks. :p Granted, the staff could also be used when farming...that is to say if you actually farm as a bard.

[Faranim]

Elegy is Earth... the same element as Slow.

I know this because of the icon color, plus you can land it on Ramuh any time (good luck landing it on any of the other Primes).

It also magic bursts on a Dark Chain, so it's definately NOT light.

[Rekiem]

Yea this make sense. I'm going to send an email to those website, they are giving incorrect info >.>

[Kweh]

Hmm I had a Light Staff at one stage, hearing now that it helps land Light based songs , I may need to invest again.

[Bamce Sylph]

for now i would go lighstaff even without the information about it effecting songs it helps to monopolize on our minor mp total, since we all know we rarely have time to sit and rest a darkstaff is useless

[ProFoolie]

Effectiveness

Has anyone run tests to see if the elemental staves increase the effectiveness of our songs, and not just the chance of landing. It seems like it should be simple enough, since we know CHA doesn't do anything in this regard, just run Minuet once with an appropriate elemental staff, and once without, then check numbers. I'll try to test this ingame today with Carol's and a borrowed ice/light/dark staff from my LS.

If we do get both a resist and effectiveness bonus from elemental staves, i'll sure be buying myself an earth staff for elegy. The effectiveness of that song is incredible, especially if you're playing with a blink tank.

[Bamce Sylph]

let me know pro, i was gonna ask the same thing, wonder how good a lightstaff would help towards minuet/madrigal etc (they're all light based right?)