Low Level BRD Equipment

[Vilurum]

Reaperx90: Army's Paeon IV has lousy harp range even with capped string skill. Maybe it'll improve with levels (and/or higher skill with those levels), maybe range is fixed. If it does change, it's so gradual as to be near-impossible to test.

Also, about your 20 string skill vs. Seeker Bats ... your singing skill was very probably at, or close to, cap, if you'd been maintaining your wind skill. So you need to factor that in when contemplating how much skill you were actually using against the bats. At 51, you'd have, what ... 146 singing?

So - going on a limb and saying they're equally important - that's about the same as having 83 in both singing and string rather than 146 in one and 20 in the other, and 83 is the skill cap for level 29. At which point you shouldn't have much trouble with Seeker Bats in Qufim.

[Reaperx90]

OH YEAH!! I completely forgot about singing skill! Well that pretty much complicates the formula a bit now doesn't it

As for Army's Paeon IV's crappy range, I heard that most of the higher end bard songs had terrible range vs. their low level counterparts, but if memory serves the Paeons go up to VI (or maybe that's just the Requiems...). I figured that the range of Paeon IV, being that it was 1-2 from 'the best' of it's song type, would have at least a SLIGHTLY larger range with harps. And I figured that since it didn't have even a slightly better range, it was due to low harp skill. I doubt it really matters though - as you said, if there is a correlation between the two it's too small to be noticable.

[Vilurum]

Requiems go up to VI. Paeons go up to IV. Although from browsing various JP sites with info pulled from game data (though all I can really make out is the English song name and its usable level , Paeon V and VI are supposedly usable at level 65 and 75 respectively.

However, I don't think they're available in the game yet. I've browsed Playonline's update history all the way back to when the 60-70 songs were listed, and neither Paeon V nor Paeon VI was mentioned.

Same goes for Chocobo Hum at 52 and Cactuar Fugue at 58. (Levels 52, 58, and 65 are the only levels when we do not presently learn a song once we get into the double digits.) Though there aren't any English Playonline updates that go back to when the 50's songs were listed, so I wasn't able to check that.

There are lots and lots of other unusable songs in the game data too, but all the rest are either above level 75, or have no level assigned at all, so they're obviously not in the game yet, and may never be. Even though Ballad III - which, yes, is in there - would be SO nice.

[Reaperx90]

A quick and easy solution to this problem would be to look in the AH (if there are any Rare/Ex Bard songs, I haven't heard about them). I have very vivid memories of seeing Army's Paeon V and VI on auction in Jeuno. But alas, I'm too lazy.

Also, I wouldn't discount the possibilty that I'm just going crazy :spin:

[Aniga]

Originally posted by Reaperx90
A quick and easy solution to this problem would be to look in the AH (if there are any Rare/Ex Bard songs, I haven't heard about them). I have very vivid memories of seeing Army's Paeon V and VI on auction in Jeuno. But alas, I'm too lazy.

Also, I wouldn't discount the possibilty that I'm just going crazy :spin:

I've never seen Paeon V or VI for sale, nor have I ever heard VI played (Have seen Maat play V). I'm thinking it's just one of those spells that players just don't have access to yet, but monsters do. Like a WHM's Banish III/IV or Banishga III, which NPCs have cast on me, but WHMs never recieve. With Bards, it's Massacre Elegy and Paeon V.

Oh well, maybe in an update or two...

[Layoneil]

SMN's light elemental can do Banish III.