My first BCNM40 experience

[xarddrax]

Yes, i guess i had forgot it in my last post, Everyone that can silence, should try if possible. They only times ive lost anyone in my lineup is from flood. Use Wind Threnody once you have the white mandras under crowd control.

Lost a PLD right at the beginning of a battle from flood and raised him during....his weaken wore off and he was able to help with whites.

Barwatera and Water Carol from Bard (once inside) help lessen the damage. Also like mentioned doing on lightning day helps. Make sure the PLD uses everything he can to stun/stop the flood. Your other melee, if they use sword, should save TP for Flat Blade (Shoulder Tackle if MNK).
One other thing...if you really want things to go well...enter the circle at about 1500. The Mandragoras cant use photosynthesis at night.

[Trell]

Great tip for preventing photosyntesis.

As for flood, I see some guys suggesting that everyone run away from the Black Mandra when it starts charging Flood. How successful is that technique? If it can easely be done, I don't see why the melee need to bother with stun techniques when they can just run to safety and then pull the Black Mandra back to the right spot when it stops casting.

JR.

[mIze]

I'm 21-2 on BC40. And the best advice I can give is don't listen to a lot of posters here :x.

Flood.. is really not that scary. You don't need to run from it or spam silence. It only floods once, -maybe- twice in a fight. You should have a melee with a Stun weaponskill (Leg Sweep (Lance), Flat Blade (sword), etc.) and just really try to get a Drk. Scythe is great against the mandras and they can use Stun at 37. Nearly instant cast and stops Flood 100%. Also, if you the bard can land a Lullaby, it stops the cast.

All the times I have won, have either been with a Drg or Drk along with a Pld. There has been... 2 times when Flood got off; once due to it casting at the start of the fight with the Drg (no TP), and the other the Drk was slept and not awoken in time to get the Stun off. Those weren't my losses either, both times the dead player was raised by the whm and rested while the other melee slowly beat away at Dvorovoi. We cut it close on time but thanks to good teamwork we managed.

My losses were due solely to shitty pickup groups, and were my first two tries at BC40. I really think you should continue to level and not stop at 40ish to attempt BCs. It looks like you're pting with people that don't have enough .... experience or skill to win these BC40s, especially if they're panicking and not healing you. Keep leveling, let other people catch up in skill, try it again in your 50's or 60's. BC40 is one of the hardest BC's in the game, despite being the lowest level cap.

[Marquis]

I can't even count the number of BCNM 40's I have done. I'd say close to 40 of em. The running away works well. Thats what do all the time, and its works. It's very random as to how often he casts flood. I've had him cast it once, and I've had him cast it 5 times in a single battle. Everyone develops their own strategy, but I prefer the running method.

[Trell]

One last detail before I try it with my team. Is Flood a Area effect or Cone effect spell? Will you get hit if you are standing behind the Black Mandra?

[Hemisphere]

Outaru....Not sure if our LS does this, but if/when we can come up with a static PT, everyone in that PT should get Ventrillo or Teamspeak....some sort of voice proggy. Will make life a ton easier, Im sure.

I currently use Ventrillo with a few other guys that play the game. I find it far superior to TS, or any other voice proggy out there.

[xarddrax]

Originally posted by mIze

Flood.. is really not that scary. You don't need to run from it or spam silence. It only floods once, -maybe- twice in a fight.

Flood is VERY random. I have seen the BLM cast Flood right at the start....i mean RIGHT at the start. I had a SAM in my PT and he didnt even get to pull his sword out before he was dead with one shot.
Quote: "WTF i didnt even hit him yet!"

I have seen PLD go from full health do dead, and i have gotten hit on my BRD for only 237dmg with flood. So, no predicting how its gonna hit and for how much. Normally a PLD with the best level 40 armor will survive it. Thats why i suggeest people keep a set of level 40 armor in thier stash for BCNM40s, i have my "battle gear" and "BCNM40 gear".

I dont run around or run away from anything in the circle. Too much chaos. I learned not to run the first 4 times i went where i failed each time due to spread out mandragoras that were chasing the group.

(Flood is one target only.)

[Outaru]

Yeah I am taking a break from BCNM40 and leveling, I got paper in preperation for limit 1, I need to get mold and bomb ash.

All my losses are due to the BLM getting off Flood I am not sure what the other melee's are doing as we tell them 100 times before fight starts to stun him when he starts to cast it but alas it never happens. And although I have stated this many many times that if someone dies stay calm and continue to fight the healers always seem to give up, I just need to find peps (melee) that has been successful at it and go with them. Once I see how they handle it I can inform my LS friends on exactly what to do.

Also I keep hearing stuff about u need major damage dealers to win? Like 3 rangers? Can't a normal exp party win it?

[PetriW]

This weekend I did this with whm whm blm pld thf brd, we killed the last mandragora 2 seconds before the time limit and lost cause we didn't have time to get the chest. At the end even the whms were just trying to help generating dmg too.
So yeah, "normal exp pt" (lots of people find this combo normal) won't do very well.

However, with a whm rdm brd pld rng drg PT we've beaten giddeus bcnm40 in 9 minutes 1 second.

[xarddrax]

Originally posted by PetriW
This weekend I did this with whm whm blm pld thf brd, we killed the last mandragora 2 seconds before the time limit and lost cause we didn't have time to get the chest.

Well since i also play a THF, i can say that unless there is someone to Fuidama off, a 40THF really sucks compared to other melee classes for damage (especially before 60). If you would have brought a MNK, SAM, DRK, RNG or DRG instead im sure you would have been ok time wise