Valor Minuet Damage

[Necrosaro]

Has anyone figured out really how much more damage using Valor Minuet does?

Now that I am grouping in Qufim I have ran into a few people who tell me to only sing both Paeons all the time and not Valor Minuet and Sword Madrigal no matter if we have enough healers or not. I usually tell people off who tell me how to do my job but I don't have all the time to be looking for new groups.

I want to know how good Valor Minuet is so I can tell those people how much better Minuet is. With the damage going by so quickly and its randomness to begin with I was never able to notice if there was an increase.

[Zingy]

I used both Paeons myself in the teen lvl's In Valk's with very good results. As your team mates Hit points are not that high around them lvl's, so Paeon was pretty amazing.

At Qufim I went with Minuet/Madrigal with no complaints. The tank's Hit points just started to get to high, and the mobs doing much more damage. Making the fight end faster is now greater than the regen boost of Paeon.

The people telling you to use both Paeons clearly had good experences with it at a lower lvl so thier line of thinking is understandable, if wrong.

My advice is not to be one of those people that go off with "Don't tell me how to play my job!". Unless of course they are being really rude about it. It's normaly a suggestion due to lack of knowledge, than a personal attack. Personaly I will play whatever songs they like, long as the exp comes in.

I don't know the damage boost than Minuet I gives, by the stat boost it gives I would assume it's like being one lvl higher. I don't think you will get any complaints with Minuet II.

[rewo]

In places like Qufim, you can probably get away with just singing paeons. Once you get to Kazham and the like, you will notice a big difference in melee damage with minuet+madrigal.

You will also be introduced to the Bard-Dash(tm), consisting of constantly running back and forth between mages and melee.

[xarddrax]

It goes up as your level increases, but to telll you the truth at lvl 25ish with BOTH Valors stacked, its only about 5-10 dmg per hit more. So its not great .....double regen will make battles last a bit longer, but rest/down time will be lower so chaining will be faster. I love Paeonx2, but at my lvl many groups would rather have attacking bonuses....oh well, they are the ones that will be sucking when the WHM doesnt cure fast enough. My ass will be doing the "Foe Lulaby-Run" to the zone line when they die.

[Niland]

madrigal and minuet

the aggro should be focused on one tank so its pointless to have paeon during the fight as having 3 tanks hitting for x % more damage is always going to be better than having one tank being healed for 3 hp every 3 seconds

tbh i wouldnt want to be in a group which was asking for stacked paeons...

as a bard finding an experienced PT who values your skills should not be a problem!

[Talonus]

Definitely madrigal + minuet, unless you have 1 melee for some reason. Why? As Niland mentioned above, efficiency.

Paeons should only be helping one person, the assigned tank. Its totally useless to those who never get aggro. Madrigal + minuet have an effect on all the tanks, making it more useful and more efficient. Even if your group isn't controlling aggro very well, and thus has the target switching a lot, its still more efficient to have madrigal + minuet up in general.

[Yuuhi]

at lvl 26 i had a group of all wars and a drk in quifim. I just put both paeons on and everyone just kept trading provoke. It worked really well; we had no downtime and at the end of each fight everyone was close to full health. But then again, we were just chaining clippers.

also with the minuet thing.... its really hard to tell if its helping or not at my lvl. (lvl 27)

ah well.

[Teffie]

right now at level 55, Valor Minuet III gives my PT a whopping +50 Attack, Believe me they love it hehe

[Patridiot]

Don't forgeth the Cornet +1 (+2 minuet). I'm at 33 and I see a big difference in damage output with and without minuet, nevermind madrigal, which is a must for anything above tough. I must be doing something right because it seems like every night someone is saying "this is the best group I've ever been in" and I'm thinking it was only mediocre.

[Rekiem]

I usually hear something like that after finishing some exp harvesting with a PT '_')b

Cornette +1 (Minuet +2) boost the attack bonus from the song by 2. If your Minuet boost attack by 30 without a Cornette, it will boost it by 32 when you use the instrument.

[Shandon]

i just recently recieved valor minuet III and the pt's im usually, they consider it a great addition. I mean the lazer sound it gives is great and the dmg with dragoons and thief is a nice addition. I paeon III and Mage Ballad at the end of battle to help with downtime to some extent. I always make sure that mage ballad is on the mages at all times. none the less at 43 there is usually a redmage in the group as well with refresh so its pretty much endless mp with ballad and refresh. But again the Valor minuet song line is great as well as the madrigal with a tranversie instrument.

[Radamvice]

yea i spent the 15 and 30k needed to buy instruments for my minuet and mandrigal songs respectively and its the best cash ive spent to make myself more effective to date, not to mention its nice (though kidansad at the same time) to know i own the best instruments for those 2 songs and wont have to replace them forever...

Now for Mary's Horn ; ;

[Siven]

Traversiere +1 is definitly worth it, even though there's no way to gauge numerically the ACC boost. Cornette +1...if that gives 2 ATK instead of 1...meh.