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  • #46
    Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

    Avesta is hardly a good example. That guy has the most elite gear possible, not to mention all the time and money it takes to solo stuff on RDM.

    That's awesome that he took down Genbu (very old news) but that's not representative of the entire RDM community.
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    • #47
      Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

      Originally posted by Armando View Post
      And for that matter he wasn't a jack of all trades, he was God. Galaxy Stop would pretty much freeze all opposition on the spot. That's only one role being fulfilled, but that role equated pretty much into "I win."
      To be entirely fair, Olan isn't God, Olan is the Author's Avatar. Remember Alazlam's source material...
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      • #48
        Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

        I think Orlandu was very overpowered. But maybe that's because I had him with the Excalibur, and he was RAPING the final boss. Like.

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        • #49
          Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

          Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
          I think Orlandu was very overpowered. But maybe that's because I had him with the Excalibur, and he was RAPING the final boss. Like.
          Bend over the knee. Where the hell is my money bitch Rape.
          Orlandu is overpowered. Orlandu is also related to and looked at as a hero by Olan. See above.
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          • #50
            Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

            Orlandu is so broken I don't use him on my recent play-playthroughs anymore. The fact that he can equip Twist Headband and Power Sleeve makes him absolutely ridiculous even if he didn't have all of Holy Knight, Dark Knight, and Divine Knight's skills.

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            • #51
              Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

              Chaos Blade + Excalibur ftw.


              And yes, WTF was SE smoking when they designed that character. Or maybe they wanted to make a 2nd insanely broken character? (I still say Xenogear's Citan is one of the best and most stupidly broken characters ever.)
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              • #52
                Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                In general, there's no such thing as "overpowered" in a 1-player game. They could get away with making Locke weak in FF6, for example, because no one was gonna say "no fair, that guy's party is better than mine!"

                Square had that outlook where some jobs were clearly intended to be more potent than others. So yeah, Orlandu's overpowered the same way that guy you get at the end of FF4 is overpowered (can't remember his name but he's an f'n incredible mage).
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                • #53
                  Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                  Man I hope this information is true. TIM is one the jobs I want to see come out in Wings. Now, if they add Mystic Knight to the forte, I'll be a happy Hume ^_^.




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                  • #54
                    Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                    Feh. Fynlar soloed Genbu on Lakshmi and he doesn't have any relic, sea or, to my knowledge, abjuration gear. Amunaptra and Seijurohiko have also soloed some pretty insane stuff, plus Chikei who Omni linked to soloing the kclub BC in 15 minutes with no meds as /blm wearing AF and cheap accessories, not a lot of time or money. Don't mistake rdm soloing as being gear-dependant. Skill is the primary factor and it follows that a player that's capable of soloing gods is going to be able to get their hands on some pretty nice equipment. And that's just the rdms that are posting videos. I'm sure there are plenty of uber red mages out there that don't have fraps or a capture card.

                    And it's not as though pink mage is the only application a rdm has in a group setting. Chainspell stunning reduces some of the strongest mobs in the game to wusses and a properly equipped rdm can take and maintain hate on some HNMs. In dynamis rdms are primarily /blm and tasked with crowd control, and with a whm in my party I spend most of my mp nuking down stats, thieves and paladins. No, endgame is not the whole game, but neither is exp/limit grind. And even that is saying nothing of what the job is capable of in PvP. If you think rdm is underpowered or pigeonholed then you're not playing the whole job. A rdm can do practically anything in the right context.
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                    • #55
                      Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                      Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
                      Just another job the Meleetards won't level.
                      Wrong there, I got a melee job (53SAM) and I plan to lvl TIM since that's my favorite mage job in FF.




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                      • #56
                        Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                        Originally posted by Taskmage View Post
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                        Yes. I agree with this so hard I'm going to have to change my pants.

                        Originally posted by Dymlos
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                        You're not a meleetard.
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                        • #57
                          Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                          Originally posted by Dymlos View Post
                          Wrong there, I got a melee job (53SAM) and I plan to lvl TIM since that's my favorite mage job in FF.
                          Just for clarification, a 'meleetard' isn't someone who lvls one melee job, it's someone who lvls nothing but melee jobs. Like myself for example, I intend to take War, Thf, Nin, Drk, Sam and Mnk to 75 with Drg and Rng at 37. The only mage jobs I plan to lvl higher then 20 are Whm and Blu, for possible subjob purposes and I plan to do so soloing as much as possible.

                          And as stated before, I would have absolutely no plans of lvling any type of Time Mage related job unless it proves to be an incredibly useful melee sub or it's some wierd twist of the job that involves them swinging giant weapons creating time/space rifts. Both of which scenarios seem highly unlikely.
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                          • #58
                            Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                            I believe being stupid or having an IQ near 0 is also a requirement for being a meleetard. Oh, and superstitions. Lots and lots of superstitions ("but two-handers break through the mob's defense better! But then the THF won't get the killshot! But +Dark resist helps my Drain!")

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                            • #59
                              Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                              For me, Meleetards fit Armando's bill, but with one additional factor: Afraid of getting hit. Absolutely hating the idea of tanking.
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                              • #60
                                Re: Dengeki PlayStation -- Dualshock PS3 Controller Confirmed, FFXI Time Mage Confirm

                                Originally posted by Armando View Post
                                I believe being stupid or having an IQ near 0 is also a requirement for being a meleetard. Oh, and superstitions. Lots and lots of superstitions ("but two-handers break through the mob's defense better! But then the THF won't get the killshot! But +Dark resist helps my Drain!")
                                Oh, well, I always just considered those guys to be 'tards in general >_>

                                Originally posted by Lmnop View Post
                                For me, Meleetards fit Armando's bill, but with one additional factor: Afraid of getting hit. Absolutely hating the idea of tanking.
                                Psh, afraid to get hit. No real melee would be afraid to get hit. Why if I was afraid of getting hit I would have already dinged 75 on all those jobs I had listed!
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