TaruTaru + What Job??

[Mhurron]

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So I guess I don't really know why each job is more suited to a particular race.
Could anyone tell me what the reasons are please?

Racial stats. Each race has its strengths and weaknesses in their stats, I.E TaruTaru has the highest INT and MP but lowest MND and STR making it appear (if you ignore gear and food) that TaruTaru should only do jobs where INT and/or MP is important and not where STR or MND is. So when looking at something like that, some people would say that TaruTaru should only be BLM, SMN, BRD and their MP pool makes up for lack of MND making RDM and WHM acceptable as well. These same people won't invite a TaruTaru PLD, DRK, MNK, WAR yada yada yada.

Gear and Food make up for any differences so that as you level differences in stats won't make it impossible to play a job, but may influence your choice of gear and food.

[Snowball]

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Oh, just one other thing.

Should I be worried about getting parties with my WHM at all? (specifically into higher levels) It's just that, well.... someone in my ls once said that when a WHM gets into higher levels, it's where the RDM comes in and takes over. I think it had something to do with the fact that WHM, and pesumably RDM are both healers in a pt, and maybe RDM has better healing spells, though I don't really know, since I don't play a RDM, and I'm just making a random guess.

Is it true that RDM would take over then, or does WHM still have the same rights in a pt as a RDM does?

[Mhurron]

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Oh, just one other thing.
Should I be worried about getting parties with my WHM at all? (specifically into higher levels) It's just that, well.... someone in my ls once said that when a WHM gets into higher levels, it's where the RDM comes in and takes over. I think it had something to do with the fact that WHM, and pesumably RDM are both healers in a pt, and maybe RDM has better healing spells, though I don't really know, since I don't play a RDM, and I'm just making a random guess.
Is it true that RDM would take over then, or does WHM still have the same rights in a pt as a RDM does?

Every job has it's ups and downs. Around lvl40/41 parties get stupid and think that a RDM with Convert and Refresh means no downtime. Then parties realize that they don't want to wait until 48 for haste or they need Erase and stupidity passes a little. Personally I will only main heal if it is a RDM - BRD party, otherwise there better be a WHM healing. RDM main strength is in a support roll, debuffing the mob assisting with the MB and acting as a backup healer. WHM is the one with all the tools to heal a party.

[Snowball]

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Every job has it's ups and downs. Around lvl40/41 parties get stupid and think that a RDM with Convert and Refresh means no downtime. Then parties realize that they don't want to wait until 48 for haste or they need Erase and stupidity passes a little.

No downtime?? Please excuse me for seeming a bit confused here, but whenever that word is mentioned, it makes me think that the game servers are down or something along those lines.

I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to or not.
Maybe you could rephrase that a bit or let me know what you meant.

Personally I will only main heal if it is a RDM - BRD party, otherwise there better be a WHM healing. RDM main strength is in a support roll, debuffing the mob assisting with the MB and acting as a backup healer. WHM is the one with all the tools to heal a party.

RDM debuffing the mob? Are you saying that a mage in a pt can actually use spells to get rid of some of the defence spells that a mob would cast on itself? I didn't realise that a RDM had these kind of spells, and haven't really noticed it in a pt either!

By the way, what does 'MB' mean please?

[Mog]

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No downtime?? Please excuse me for seeming a bit confused here, but whenever that word is mentioned, it makes me think that the game servers are down or something along those lines.

I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to or not.
Maybe you could rephrase that a bit or let me know what you meant.

At level 41, rdms get the spell "Refresh". Whoever you refresh gets MP regen, or mp healing without even having to rest. Mhurron is referring to how there would be less downtime due to the fact that you won't have to rest so much between fights, because the more MP you have, the less time you have to spend resting. (And refresh is great for MP regen)

RDM debuffing the mob? Are you saying that a mage in a pt can actually use spells to get rid of some of the defence spells that a mob would cast on itself? I didn't realise that a RDM had these kind of spells, and haven't really noticed it in a pt either!

By the way, what does 'MB' mean please?

RDM's get the spell dispel (not sure what level it is) that allows you to take away one buff from the mob(or is it all of them?). It's very useful when the mob has a special ability, such as cocoon, or ice-spikes.

And....MB generally means magic burst. Magic burst are always a fun end to a good skillchain. ^^

[Mhurron]

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RDM's get the spell dispel (not sure what level it is) that allows you to take away one buff from the mob(or is it all of them?).

You didn't say it with enough emphasis:

RDM GET THE SPELL DISPEL

/end big booming voice

Anyway, it is a lvl32 spell that removes one buff at a time from the mob, it is essentially the reverse of Erase.

[Snowball]

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Thanks for the info guys. I'm understanding that now.

Through reading your descriptions, it made me think back to a few hours ago when I was reading back through the list of spells for WHM in my FFXl guide, and saw the spell, "Erase" and thouhgt well "Dispell" sounds quite like that spell, except that with "Erase" you can only remove 1 effect from the mob.

Then I looked through the RDM spell list for "Refresh" which said that it gradually restores the targets mp, much the oppisite for "Regen" with WHM which gradually restores the targets hp.

All 4 mage jobs have to use mp in battle, so I don't really understand why they can't all use the "Refresh" spell at some point.
Nevermind. No big problem anyway.

[pearlsea]

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All 4 mage jobs have to use mp in battle, so I don't really understand why they can't all use the "Refresh" spell at some point.
Nevermind. No big problem anyway.

The reason RDM is the only mage with refresh is because its a support mage, ment to assist the other mages. If black mage white mage or even blue mage could cast refresh it would severly limit red mages usefulness in partys, and would probably over power the other mages because they would have less downtime without the need for a rdm and could invite another DD instead to speed up kills.

[Mog]

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Just more idiots to ban. :D

Moderator's Edit: Note to readers - Mog's comment here was directed at some spam posts which have been deleted, not at any of the posters in this thread. - Icemage

[bikkebakke]

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Good ol' Mog... how you been bro?!

Anyways, back on topic... I like being a Taru Dragoon. I'm good in pt's and when I get tired of idiot's I can slap on /RDM and solo efficiently.

[Tadacho]

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Oh, just one other thing.

Should I be worried about getting parties with my WHM at all? (specifically into higher levels) It's just that, well.... someone in my ls once said that when a WHM gets into higher levels, it's where the RDM comes in and takes over. I think it had something to do with the fact that WHM, and pesumably RDM are both healers in a pt, and maybe RDM has better healing spells, though I don't really know, since I don't play a RDM, and I'm just making a random guess.

Is it true that RDM would take over then, or does WHM still have the same rights in a pt as a RDM does?

Generally I've only seen this happen towards the very high levels (70+). Both white and black mages become less "compulsory" at this stage for two reasons:

- Red Mage can handle what both these jobs offer
- 70+ parties like to burn exp, and unfortunately whm and blm can create downtime due to MP

Of course, BLM and WHM are still highly sought after jobs and you would probably not really find it hard to find a party at all. You definately shouldn't be worried about finding a party below level 70 - most leaders will specifically designate spots in their party for these jobs. I only speak from experience that, especially now that I've started meritting, it isn't often I am in a party with a whm or blm and the above are reasons I've been given for a leader's decision.

Also, don't ever think RDM have better healing abilities than WHM, because we don't ^^

[DanteWolfWood]

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is...is this a bot? oh no, bots are in FFXIO!!!!

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[Mog]

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Good ol' Mog... how you been bro?!

Going good! kupo!

In other news, I recently picked up samurai for my tarutaru, and I'd like to say that I LOVEEEEE this job. I plan on making sam my main melee job, because I'm too sick of mage jobs in general. Moreover, I'm decked with nice gear (bounding boots, pimp samurai sword, power gi) and I can't wait to join an xp party with him!

[Omni]

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holy crap, bikkebakke! where have you been?

[Takira]

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Actually, Erase is for removing status affects from your PARTY members not the mob, Dispel, removes buffs from the mobs.

Just wanted to be clear on the difference.