Would it be advised to start over at this point?

[Nataka]

Hello guys. Alright, this weekend I should be able to return to FFXI after my burn out over the summer. Right now I'm aiming for a melee DD or tank job because in my travels in other MMOs, I've realized it's stupid of me to believe I have to be a healer in order to be a contributing member to a group, damage is just as important and as is tanking. It only led me to be burned out because I was doing something I didnt enjoy immensly just for party invites. I also realized every class has to wait for a party some days, so I might as well wait as something I like.

The only problem is my ye-old character is a taru, and at one point in my old red mage carreer (and obviously in a total fit of stupidity, stupid being young and lazy :[ ) I sold my utsusemi:ichi scroll to buy dispel. Last I checked Utsusemi:Ichi was pretty damn expensive, and without it my choice of jobs is fairly limited.

The current list of jobs I'm considering are Monk, Dragoon and Dark Knight. I'm pretty sure ALL of these jobs require I have Utsusemi in some manor (Primarily for sub jobs. Theif will require it, Warrior will require it, etc. Especially sicne I'm a taru). And frankly I dont have the money. And as it stands I wonder if I ever will since, if I remember correctly, I only had about 600k gil when I quit.

So the simple answer might be to start a new character. My friends have done it before, and have lost a lot more then I have in the process, but still...I dont know if it's better or not. My taru is rank 5, has a subjob (obviously) kazham keys, etc. Int erms of jobs leveled, he has a level 47 black mage, 41 red mage, 24 white mage, theif at 15 and a bunch of others around that range. I also have a great deal of fame in almost allt he cities. It's a lot to loose, and the only gain I'd get, really, is utsusemi again for less gil and a character that fits the melee classes better.

This loss of utsusemi has been a pretty big reason in my quiting during the summer since I wanted to level a few jobs that would require it down the road, but got scared about not having it and not being able to afford it. So I guess the question if it was really that big of a loss to start over? I know race isnt a HUGE thing so I dont think it's that big of a gain, but I dont know about utsusemi.

Thanks a bunch.

[Caspian]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

First off, Utsu: Ichi is probably under 600k now. Prices are falling so you should be able to afford it. I wouldn't drop the character if I were you. Its high enough that you can make money from the getgo more easily and help fund the lower level jobs. War and Thf do not require Nin as a subjob, but it is preferred in most parties (sometimes despite common sense). Taru will do just fine as any of those jobs, you will a little less damage, but noone will look down on you for being a Taru DD. Even if you start a new char, I wouldn't delete your current one, since it will be highly useful for making money and such for quite a while. (Getting subjob and kazham keys alone would be worth not starting over for me.) Ultimately the decision is yours, but you'll be fine just keeping the taru as your main.

[Nataka]

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Okay, that's what I was hoping. Thanks a bunch.

It's hard to truely know what's up when you hear so much conflicting data, lol.

[Nataka]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Oh btw, out of those three jobs, which one do you think requires the most skill and interaction from the player? I'm leaning towards being a monk or dragoon, but I dunno how focused the player has to be for those two or if much skill is involved..

[Omniblast]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Monk requires 0 skill. Thief requires a lot of skill. Dragoon not sure, Warrior not sure.
I hear of Monks going afk after setting their character to attack, then hitting the occasional ws button.

[Armando]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

My opinions: WAR doesn't require any skill to ride the WAR/NIN bandwagon, but if you want to stand out and play to your full potential it does require skill. Dragoon doesn't require a lot of skill for DD'ing, but it does require plenty of skill when it comes to using their wyverns for soloing or support in odd circumstances/small group activities. Thief definetely takes skill due to the nature of SA and TA. MNK takes no skill outside of not getting yourself killed ;P

I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. You can always take your gameplay to a level above that of the average player if you're skilled and knowledgeable enough regardless of job. Sure, some jobs require less skill to fulfill their minimal duties than others, but you don't want to give just the minimum, do you?

[Theyaden]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Monk requires 0 skill. Thief requires a lot of skill. Dragoon not sure, Warrior not sure.
I hear of Monks going afk after setting their character to attack, then hitting the occasional ws button.

Wow you realy hate monks ^..^

Unfortunately several players feel it's appropriate to go afk during fights and it gets noticable when the mob turns and they just stand there for the rest of the fight exc no job should do this, but several players on different jobs do ><

Couldn't personally vouch for anything on monk since it's sitting at level 1 for me. One thing my brother gets a kick out of in playing monk is testing the hate line to see how far it can go without breaking up to Boost, Beserk, Focus, Raging fist into skillchain. (Don't try this without a good Paladin or an exceptional ninja though lol).
With the noted exception of thief I've found the melee jobs were never as much fun for me as mage jobs, but thats just me.

Don't start over though even if it was something in the millions you'ld just make a mule take a job to 20 and either mine near bastok to trade at the warehouse for teshendo fame or hunt Yagado neclaces outside of Windy to trade the the mithra thief in Windurs Waters until you have the needed fame then trip to Jeuno chocobo quest have your main ls help your mule get the 3 keys then chocobo to Norg from Kazam. If not a redmage or whitemage get some silent oils and silver beastcoins to get the scroll mission you need.

Failing that right now it's a buyers market out there and 600k should be more than enough as previously noted for the current prices

[Nataka]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Well, because of Theyaden's idea on getting Utsusemi I think I'll give theif a try. I've always been curious about the job and liked what I saw once I got sneak attack.

Thanks a bunch guys!

[LadyKiKi]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Are you Nataka on the Quetz server who's in my linkshell?

[Jei]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

If you have good understanding about the game's mechanic, you'll play any job just fine.

Melee in general, you need to know about skillchain timing which is easy to learn. And learn to use abilities at the right time, altho timing usually isn't that important Apart from that, it's all about increasing your performance with the right equipment and food.

Knowing how Thf works so you can assist their sneak/trick attack is also important. A little bit more complicating but you should be able to understand in 1 or 2 parties

Thf you need to know the above, only now the timing of your skill becomes really important. You also need to know how to safely pull mobs, how they links and how to time your abilities for maximum efficiency. There's definitely more skill involved here, both for the Thf and other PT members too.

[Icemage]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

600K gil is a tiny sum compared to the amount of energy it takes to re-do enough Norg quests to get the scroll again.

Make some money, buy the scroll and be done with it. Unless you're dying to change races as well (a possible point when dealing with Dragoon or Dark Knight jobs), there's never really a good reason to start over.


Icemage

[Nataka]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

Are you Nataka on the Quetz server who's in my linkshell?

Nope, I'm on Ragnarok

And thanks for all the advise guys. I think I'm definitely going to level up theif. I'll get that utsusemi scroll somehow.

[raidenn]

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http://ffxiah.com/item_search.php?search_q=utsusemi

Heres the price of Utsusemi in your server..

-woops I couldve sword I put in Ragnarok

[Nataka]

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http://ffxiah.com/item_search.php?search_q=utsusemi
Heres the price of Utsusemi in your server..

Well it's Ragnarok not Bahamut but thanks a bunch. I can definitely afford it when I get FFXI reinstalled.

Watch it'll jump to 1m in the next two days, hehe.

[Gwynn]

Re: Would it be advised to start over at this point?

I wouldn't ever start over a character that has that much time invested in it for something as simple as a spell scroll. Although, its for situations just like this that I never sells quested scrolls, period. I don't care if its a job that I don't think I'll ever want to level that high, I never sell them because you never really know what you'll want to do a few months down the line, and its not worth the hassle.