Red Mage Hume?

[Daryn2889]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

That's true, and it's worth noting. But it's also subtley saying that hume is the only race that anyone should choose because of their superior versitility. And that's narrow-minded.

Yea that's true. Think about it. If it were a fact that humes are ultimatly the best at everything, then why is it that not everyone's a hume? Why would SE enable the ability for every race to do ever job? Because it's possible and workable. Unlike Everquest where jobs are dependent on race, Final Fantasy opens the door for versatility and possibilities no matter what race.

[Hamlet]

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Don't Humes have higher MND than Tarutaru, Hamlet?

Yes they do, but not by much. According to the calculator, it's 3 difference at lvl 75. I'm not sure how accurate it is at the higher lvls, but I doubt it's much more than that. Tarus have 168 more mp (602 total, without sub) than hume (434 without sub), and 8 more int, at lvl 75. +3 mnd or +8 int and 168 mp, which is better? And it's pretty easy for a taru to find +3 mnd in gear, but a hume has to spend alot of money and gear slots to get the int and mp.

Basically, I just want the OP and anyone just starting out to know that there IS a difference, with the caveat that the difference is definately not game-breaking. The main reason is because I wish I had a better source of information than the Brady guide when I was first starting, which said almost verbatum what was posted here:

"Humes and Red Mages are parallel in the sense that they both are good at everything, but masters of nothing." It's true to a degree, but also misleading.

I don't regret choosing hume, although I did for awhile around 50-70 when I was hurting for mp. Hume is nice when I'm leveling non-mage jobs, and I feel more effective soloing (although this is probably placebo more than anything).

[Mog]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

Taru's have soso mind. When it comes to that, Elvaan wins hands down.

[Hamlet]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

Yea that's true. Think about it. If it were a fact that humes are ultimatly the best at everything, then why is it that not everyone's a hume? Why would SE enable the ability for every race to do ever job? Because it's possible and workable. Unlike Everquest where jobs are dependent on race, Final Fantasy opens the door for versatility and possibilities no matter what race.

I had a little trouble following your logic here, but I think I get the idea. I've never said that hume or any race can't play red mage or any job. I think SE did a good job with the races by not making them too extremely different. But, that being said, stats matter. The only reason people buy gear or food is for stats. The entire economy is dependent on the effectiveness of stat boosts.

[Daryn2889]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

I had a little trouble following your logic here, but I think I get the idea. I've never said that hume or any race can't play red mage or any job. I think SE did a good job with the races by not making them too extremely different. But, that being said, stats matter. The only reason people buy gear or food is for stats. The entire economy is dependent on the effectiveness of stat boosts.

Uhhh yea I think that's what I was going with but I'm not sure lol. I know you never said that, what I was trying to say was the SE made it possible for any race to perform a job, however some are a bit more challenging to get by than others. If a player is really dedicated and they take their time to understand it all, then race presents no boundaries. That's what I believe at least.

[Hamlet]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

Uhhh yea I think that's what I was going with but I'm not sure lol. I know you never said that, what I was trying to say was the SE made it possible for any race to perform a job, however some are a bit more challenging to get by than others. If a player is really dedicated and they take their time to understand it all, then race presents no boundaries. That's what I believe at least.

You can look at it as a challange. You can look at the difference however you want, but it still exists.

My heart warms when I see a high lvl galka rdm because I know how hard it must've been for them to get there.

The game is well setup because you literally can do whatever job you want with whatever race you choose (and it has been done, many times, with the worst possible combinations). If you get a thrill out of playing a high lvl galka mage or a taru paladin, more power to you. Definately play the game in a way that makes you the happiest. It is a game after all.

[Mhurron]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

Rdm AF looks cooler on Hume tho ^^
Hume has higher MND, too.
Not having to worry about switching in MP gear as Taru is nice. Less gear to carry

No Hume could look as cute as a Taru does. Which is important since when it comes down to it which race to play is really just a question of what you like the look of better. Differences of MP are only a huge boost or hindrance at lower levels, as you level up more and more gear becomes available to augment any stat you want to.

Taru has the lowest MND, and Elvaan has the highest. I have yet to see someone say Elvaan is the best choice for RDM because of that though. RDM is more then just MP, MND and INT stats and no matter what race you choose, if you stick with RDM you will be carrying MP, INT and MND gear. It's just a question of how much of each. Taru wins the RDM stat game with the highest in two out of three, MP and INT. However all except one of a Red Mages most important spells and MND based.

Again though, none of that really matters. which race is pretty much the only unchangeable choice you have to make. Choose what you want to look at, since you don't know what job you'll be playing in a month from now.

[Daryn2889]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

You can look at it as a challange. You can look at the difference however you want, but it still exists.

My heart warms when I see a high lvl galka rdm because I know how hard it must've been for them to get there.

The game is well setup because you literally can do whatever job you want with whatever race you choose (and it has been done, many times, with the worst possible combinations). If you get a thrill out of playing a high lvl galka mage or a taru paladin, more power to you. Definately play the game in a way that makes you the happiest. It is a game after all.

Couldn't have said it any better myself, very well put!

[arkaine23]

Re: Red Mage Hume?

Hume is great for RDM. The best advice was already stated: pick something you like to look at. Some ppl seem to fall down for taurtaru MP envy. I don't. There's going to be some rough lvling on your trip to 75, no matter what. Having some extra mp is gonna help just about as much as having less hp is gonna get you killed more frequently. By the time you can pursue merits and abjurations, you'll have a chance to tune that mp pool quite nicely. You can get +80mp in merits and just one or two Aquarian Abjurations (Zenith set) will equalize your hp and mp. Any race can do well at RDM and have in the neighborhood of 1000hp/1000mp with some tweaking of gear and merits. It's going to be most difficult for a Galka of course, but Taru/Hume/Mithra are all good choices. And you can be an Elvaan if you like the whole gimpy giraffe-neck, uncooridnated, arangutang(sp?) thing... Consider also that you might want to play a second, completely different job. I play Monk when I don't want to do the whole backline support/mainhealer merit point burn sweatshop thing. It's quite a nice change of pace. Don't be fooled: race plays only a very minor role in your character's performance. The most tangible difference is in hp and mp pools. :D

And IMO:

Hume MNK >>> Tarutaru MNK as compared to Tarutaru RDM > Hume RDM
In fact I think hume RDM are better than tarutaru rdm anyday of the week. I should go find one and goad him into a ballista duel....


P.S. Might wanna be from Windhurst. At rank 8 Master caster's bracelets are awesome. I chose Bastok and am dreading starting rank missions over & changing nations just to get these...

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P.P.S I'd have to rip my eyes out then shoot myself if I chose to play a tarutaru. But that's just me...