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  • #31
    Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

    I've been thinking for a while... is DRK really notorious for their lack of accuracy?

    I tried to list 'accuracy gear' on endgame for DRK...
    Weapon : Orichalum/triton scythe for tid bit accuracy, Y's scythe, Vassago scythe

    Head : Optical hat
    Neck : Peacock Amulet/Charm
    Earrings : Assault earring / hollow earring

    Body : Adaman hauberk - clearly superior than those osode, hauby(+1) and scoha(+1)
    Hand : Homam Manopolas / Adaman Muffler
    Rings : Sniper's+1 / Toreador

    Back : Forager's+1
    Waist : Life Belt
    Legs : Adaman Breeches / Homam Cosciales
    Feet : homam gambieras/ adaman sollerets

    I don't see DRK have worse accuracy than any other melee.
    somebody pls enlighten me
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    • #32
      Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

      Let's see, from about level one to fifty-nine Dark Knights can't count on a realible hit rate simply because they don't have quite as much access to Acc in equipment yet. They'll probably have double Sniper's, as well as a Life Belt for +10 Acc. At fifty-nine they get the Haubergeon with +5 Dex, and +10 Acc if I remember correctly. They get Vassago's Scythe, or something similar, at 55 with -25 HP and +5 Acc, again if I remember correctly. There's the Assault Earring, and as they close in around seventy they have access to the Hauberk set.

      Plus, sushi is still relatively new compared to how long the game has been out in Japan. I remember a time where every melee was popping Mithkabobs and pretty much left their Acc up to a higher power. Those were the days where Drk were giant missfests, but now there's pretty much a food to make up for any lacking stat.

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      • #33
        Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

        Originally posted by Impaction
        Let's see, from about level one to fifty-nine Dark Knights can't count on a realible hit rate simply because they don't have quite as much access to Acc in equipment yet. They'll probably have double Sniper's, as well as a Life Belt for +10 Acc. At fifty-nine they get the Haubergeon with +5 Dex, and +10 Acc if I remember correctly. They get Vassago's Scythe, or something similar, at 55 with -25 HP and +5 Acc, again if I remember correctly. There's the Assault Earring, and as they close in around seventy they have access to the Hauberk set.

        Plus, sushi is still relatively new compared to how long the game has been out in Japan. I remember a time where every melee was popping Mithkabobs and pretty much left their Acc up to a higher power. Those were the days where Drk were giant missfests, but now there's pretty much a food to make up for any lacking stat.
        Even at 65sh, DRKs can't get nearly as much Acc as they'd want. I think a THF friend who geared up had almost full 15 pts of acc more than I at that level. At 70, O hat helps a bit, but every other job class can use it too, so I don't see that as a helping factor.

        Only way DRKs stop missing is when they hit 75 and stick to the traditional exp camps. That's because every mob they hit are only at most 7 levels higher than themselves.

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        • #34
          Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

          Nobody *stops* missing... accuracy is a relative thing and it has strong diminishing returns.

          In the sushi age, I don't think anyone should really be that worried about their acc unless they are significantly below the party's level. Trying to push your acc gear is mainly useful for people that are trying to switch to meat for the huge atk benefit; this is nice if you can pull it off, but you probably won't be able to on ITs, except maybe a DRG, which has acc bonus trait.

          DRK/THF is a sacrifice gimp - by subbing THF, they weaken themselves in exchange for something that supposedly benefits the party (i.e. hate control). If you're doing it for more WS damage, don't; you're losing way more damage from Berserk, Double Attack and the extra TP gained from Double Attack than you could possibly make up with SA(TA) weaponskills, even counting the difference in SC damage too (don't forget that most of the /WAR's weaponskills will be done while berserk, and double attack can occasionally trigger during a WS). DRK/WAR will beat DRK/THF in overall damage from 1 to 75 (although below 30 there isn't much difference, WAR does have a bit more STR). After 50 it's not even close.

          Too bad DRK can't wear the Crow set - one or two pieces could really help them push their damage higher without committing suicide.
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          • #35
            Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

            Problem with DRK accuracy was never their acc. They can get BILLIONs of +acc. But any melee can get enough acc to hit "overkill" region. You're still gonna miss every once in a while and there's nothing you can do about it. The real problem is that Drk lack any TP trick, and that if they decide to try to "help the party" by casting spells that S-E made horribly underwhelming, they just gave up more tp. Bst and Drk are the only DDs in the game w/out some sort of tp trick.

            Also, something I stated wayyyyy back when the food update happened and I still hold to: I believe Dark Knights make better use of sushi than other jobs because they're not losing nearly as much. Especially 70+ when attack bonus four comes into play, you have a very healthy headstart on an attack gear get-up.

            In exp yesterday with my Greataxe, on the same mob I hit for 37 and for 90ish (sushi. While granted I don't have a perfect attack and acc build, I lean more towards eating meat and wearing acc and only use sushi when i have to.). That's the sort of thing I think a Dark Knight could easily avoid by virtue of attack bonus traits.
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            • #36
              Re: Which job has the WORST accuracy associated with it?

              Originally posted by Dryhus
              Maybe the DRK popped sushi during battle and didn't notice that it didn't take effect. He probably saw the food icon and thought all was lovely.
              Originally posted by fastcart
              Dryhus, if he did that, he'd get the error that he was already full...
              I'm aware of that. As I said, maybe he didn't notice that it didn't take effect. That is, maybe the battle spam blew by too fast for him to see "You are already full."
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