So my HNMLS was discussing Tonight...

[Serif]

Originally posted by LionhartPLD
mnk>rng>nin>war>brd>bst

I don't understand the NIN and WAR before BRD. The only useful thing it is used for with NIN and WAR is EXP. BRDs actually use this on HNM. NINs would use Arhat's Gi +1 and WARs would use their Body piece which is +8 Enmity, correct me if I am wrong.

I do agree though that MNK>RNG are 1st two. But I would think it would go in this order. MNK>RNG>BRD>NIN>WAR/SAM>BST

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Serif
The only useful thing it is used for with NIN and WAR is EXP.

Actually, it's the best body for Steel Cyclone on Gods. The +10 VIT on Osode really ups the damage by quite a bit. It's the best body for tanking Jeuno HNM since you don't need Enmity then, but Haubergeon works fine aswell. I'm also leveling WHM sub to try that out at Fafnir/Nidhogg, +30 MP would be nice then.

I'm not saying that WAR should have larger priority, just pointing out it has more uses. I used one for a bit and wasn't impressed. Haub worked better on meleeing HNMs/Gods, Haub worked just aswell tanking Jeuno HNM, and AF body worked out better tanking true HNM. The only place I was impessed with it was how it improved WS damage. Now I just borrow one of our RNG's when doing Steel Cyclone and give it back once I WS and saving up for E.Body instead.

[LionhartPLD]

Originally posted by Discordian
This equates to
Already got stuff > Also already got stuff > Had stuff before previous person > wants adaman body for his collection > Is waiting for god armor to be free lot so that he can get it within the next year > Hopes that war gets adaman body soon so that he can get it.

There's a difference in utility and fair and many jobs get a lot before bard even gets a taste yet people rely on bards to help them get what they want. You can kill anything in the game with your AF1 set of armor look at a lot of Paladins and whitemages, yes abjuration and crafted stuff is good but in no need required.

I never said that was the farest order but I believe thats the best order of usefulness.

and serif I know osode looks cute as hell on taru brds >.> but its just not all that good for brds. 10 vit and all that will not save your ass >.>; It's really good on NIN in combination with the seiryu kote. I've used both scorpion harness and osode vs most HNM and I dont see any difference in the evasion but I do see a difference in hate holding abilities and slight decrease in dmg taken. I'd only use arhats on things like the dragons and certain gods/hnm like byakko and stuff.

wtf is a jeuno HNM? you mean ground HNM? o.O;

[Discordian]

Originally posted by LionhartPLD
I never said that was the farest order but I believe thats the best order of usefulness.

and serif I know osode looks cute as hell on taru brds >.> but its just not all that good for brds. 10 vit and all that will not save your ass >.>; It's really good on NIN in combination with the seiryu kote. I've used both scorpion harness and osode vs most HNM and I dont see any difference in the evasion but I do see a difference in hate holding abilities and slight decrease in dmg taken. I'd only use arhats on things like the dragons and certain gods/hnm like byakko and stuff.

wtf is a jeuno HNM? you mean ground HNM? o.O;

Jeuno HNM is probably the 3 hnms around the connecting zones such as roc, serket, and simurgh, lumberjack doesn't really count since well.... who really cares about that one?

[Fell]

Whoever wines the least ^^.

[ZQM]

Discordian is correct, though I also considering ones like Bune, Serket, ect Jeuno HNM. Basically ones that used to be considered hard HNM but now are easy.

[sudo]

T.T

bst always at the end....