Post-60: DRK/THF or THF/NIN, other related questions

[Gauloises]

To those above level 60:

Barring the characters' reputations, and assuming that the equipment for both was up-to-date, would you be more inclined to invite a DRK/THF or a THF/NIN into your party? Also - I've been reading all of the DRK vs MNK posts, where does THF/NIN fit into all of this?

Is there one melee class (barring ranger) that you prefer far above the rest? And would you always invite rangers before any of the other melee classes? Are Samurai and Dragoon essentially the least desirable out of the melee group?

Thanks in advance.

[Cali]

THF, RNG, and you can even say DRG... all have different job in parties... O.o;

THF is good for earning hate for tanker, RNG is a good damage dealer, DRG.. I don't know.

Well, I am only 53, so my answer probably don't matter, but as far as I know, I have never heard "RNG is a MUST", even from my 75 friends... though "PLD, NIN, WAR, any one of them is a must for PT" I have heard a lot

[ZQM]

Warrior is going to normally do the best choice from 15-50.

Unless you're fighting Bones, which MNKs will pwn.

15 they get Berserk.
25 they get Double Attack (The best offensive passive trait in the game).
35 they get War Cry
45 they get Aggressor (Argueabbly the best offensive job ability in the game).

At 50, DRK's and MNK's gain access to Double Attack and also get another Attack Bonus.

At 41 MNKs get Raging Fists, and I haven't seen anything so great about it (from people with non-gimped equipment). It's not horrible, averages ~150, but my Raging Axe(2 hitter) averages the same amount of damage.

Although I'm not there yet, 55 WARs become good again with Rampage while DRKs still have shitty weaponskills and MNK gets nothing new. 60 WAR gets Raging Rush, DRK gets Guillotine, MNK gets Howling First.

And at 66 WARs get Full Break and Mystral Axe...basically falling way behind DRK and MNK.

[Rones]

I would first see which could make a better SC with the other melee(s) in the party for what we will be exping against. If that didn't put one before the other, I would grab a Drk and ask him to sub war for berserk and double attack. Then again, maybe I've been spoiled by plds who can actually keep the hate off everything the dmg dealers throw and don't need sa+ta.

[modnar]

A word about DRG

Dragoon and Thiefs can be best of friends!!


Scenario: Tank + Thief + Dragoon

time (t) = 0
Dragoon Provoke
Thief SATA onto Tank
Tank keeps hate.
time (t) = 1 min
Thief does SATA on Dragoon
Dragoon Jumps and removes hate.
Tank keeps hate.
time (t) = 2 min
Thief SATA on Dragoon
(mob dies).

time (t) = 3 min
Dragoon Provoke
Thief SATA onto Tank
Tank Keeps hate
time (t) = 4 min
Thief does SATA on Dragoon
Dragoon Jumps and removes hate.
Tank keeps hate.
time (t) = 5 min
Thief SATA on Dragoon
(mob dies).

infinity...

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

about hate control thf will always control hate better than drk/thf or mnk/thf at any lv cuz there SATA alone can do up to 500~ damage if they was good but you know its not all about hate

i use /anon all the time now why?! cuz pts dont stop inviting me and they want me to play like thf [drk/thf]

drk/thf true power is not at lv 60~ its lv+65 when we learn cross reaper and spinning slash

we close strong lv 3 renkei light/darkness with SATA so all hate go to pld but thf can only close light renkei [shark bite]

and about your questions i think most pts will invite drk/thf over thf/ at lv+65 thats what most of my friends told me and high lv players