What jobs do Mithras excel in?

[Stormwalker]

Originally posted by EFigaro
Charisma has also yet to be proven to impact hate, so it doesn't play a factor yet. There has been a -lot- of debate as to how Chr affects Provoke and how it affects Hate, but the Dev Team has never, to my knowledge, expressed just how it affects things. All we know for sure is it impacts songs cast on Mobs and the rate of Charm for Bst.

There has been at least one interview with the developers in which it was stated that Charisma has no bearing on enmity. And I certainly don't have any problems holding hate.

As for the VIT thing, the difference between Hume VIT and Mithra VIT is extremely marginal. At level 36 a Hume has a whopping TWO VIT more than a Mithra (41 to 39). So if a Mithra is a poor tank, so is a Hume.

[Arto]

Mithra BRD do fine, i can land elegy like 19/20 and Lullaby never gets resisted if i use my signa. i dont use my signa so i have like +33 CHR they do just fine...

[Matsukurago]

http://ffxi.crgaming.com/interviews/...iew.asp?Id=272

That's the interview where they said that charisma does NOT affect emnity.

[Navia]

Mithra excel at thf,rng,nin jobs

competent at doing all other jobs, lowest CHR for bst and brd jobs but subbing WHM bumps that up and there is an abundance of CHR gear.

Player skill beats out race choice in a number of jobs as well.

[Weezingpipes]

Just a quick comparison for you:
Elvaan Drk/war lvl 59: 73 str, 54 dex
Mithra Drk/war lvl 59: 63 str, 68 dex
Last I checked, drk spend millions on things like peacock charm to get all the +accuracy and +dex gear they can get. Doing all that will still put them below a mithra in accuracy. You can't tell me 14 dex is barely noticeable, otherwise elvaan drk/war would be buying str+ rings instead of sniper rings just to be on par with a mithra's accuracy.

The fact is at high levels, EVERYONE buys accuracy gear for level up parties. Why yes, even those never missing Mithras need it just as much as the blind elvaans. About the only high level people who buy +dex gear are THF, poor as hell, or are morons. 14 dex is just over 1 Sniper Ring worth of accuracy, and personally, I'd rather have 10 str than have to wear 1 less Sniper Ring, and so would most melee really, at least melee with a brain. Also considering str gaps are MUCH harder to overcome than dex gaps, mostly due to awkward itemization/str items being in slots that are better suited to have +accuracy items in them.

Check what high level non THF Mithra melee are wearing on your server (ie, 70-75 people). Odds are its probably the same thing the Elvaans, Galkas etc are wearing.

[obsidian]

Ah, elvaan eliteness at its best. Elvaans remind way too much of the french to ever consider playing as one.

[rarr]

Mithra are the best at THF, as said many times. They're basically Humes with a few stats rearranged.

[CarbonFibre]

CHR may not affect your enmity in general, but it may effect the enmity associated with certain abilities. Provoke is the most common example. I don't know of any concrete proof CHR does more than songs/charms, but what the hell would the huge CHR boosts on the Koenig armor be for if it didn't help anything a PLD had at all? Just to say you have a lot of CHR for no reason? On the other hand, S-E does have items like shields that enhance a job trait for a job that can't equip it. Who knows what the true answer is. There's also no law against them misleading or outright lying about these things in an interview either. Their motivation to do so I cannot imagine, though.

[Jonnyram]

Originally posted by CarbonFibre
I don't know of any concrete proof CHR does more than songs/charms, but what the hell would the huge CHR boosts on the Koenig armor be for if it didn't help anything a PLD had at all? Just to say you have a lot of CHR for no reason?

Perhaps high CHR increases your resistance to being tamed by the enemy BST mobs?

[Sharma]

Originally posted by Weezingpipes
The fact is at high levels, EVERYONE buys accuracy gear for level up parties. Why yes, even those never missing Mithras need it just as much as the blind elvaans. About the only high level people who buy +dex gear are THF, poor as hell, or are morons. 14 dex is just over 1 Sniper Ring worth of accuracy, and personally, I'd rather have 10 str than have to wear 1 less Sniper Ring, and so would most melee really, at least melee with a brain. Also considering str gaps are MUCH harder to overcome than dex gaps, mostly due to awkward itemization/str items being in slots that are better suited to have +accuracy items in them.

Check what high level non THF Mithra melee are wearing on your server (ie, 70-75 people). Odds are its probably the same thing the Elvaans, Galkas etc are wearing.

Str is harder to compensate for? Heh ok. :p

Str is to be quite honest with you, very easy to compensate for mainly due to str equipment being relatively cheap, Accuracy gear on the other hand isnt. (Sniper rings 400k each, peacock charm 4 mil, specs 2 mil etc) ^^

Brown Belt itself is hardly over 350k and Sun rings dont cost the world either. ~_~

[Gryff]

Originally posted by CarbonFibre
CHR may not affect your enmity in general, but it may effect the enmity associated with certain abilities. Provoke is the most common example. I don't know of any concrete proof CHR does more than songs/charms, but what the hell would the huge CHR boosts on the Koenig armor be for if it didn't help anything a PLD had at all? Just to say you have a lot of CHR for no reason? On the other hand, S-E does have items like shields that enhance a job trait for a job that can't equip it. Who knows what the true answer is. There's also no law against them misleading or outright lying about these things in an interview either. Their motivation to do so I cannot imagine, though.

CHR affects some weapon skill damage.

Stated in an interview w/ square somewhere.

[Sharma]

Originally posted by Gryff
CHR affects some weapon skill damage.

Stated in an interview w/ square somewhere.

+chr on Koenigs knuckles. ^^

Wonder if it effects dmg on quested WSs...?

Or is the damage increase universal?

[Montana]

I think Mithra is the best choise for THF and RNG becoue of high Agi and Dex. I personaly think hume is better NIN than mithra.
Mithra have crappy defense and even as a NIN you will get hit. Hume have good Agi and more STR so they keep hate better..

[Sharma]

Ummm, Defense is race specific?

Maybe vit but i dont think defense.

[Rones]

Only difference in def between a mithra and hume with same equip would be 4-6 from the mithra having 3 less vit than the hume. Other than that they would be identical def wise, except mithra has a considerable amount more agi.