Atma preferences

[Neverslip]

Re: Atma preferences

Regain (+1TP/tick)

&

Triple Attack (+15%),

Are pretty amazing for those times that you want red or blue proc and it ends up being the WHM's time to WS.

[Firewind]

Re: Atma preferences

Ah, my mistake, I missed that one in the list. Wiki's tables are a huge mess:

Atma - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

[Mhurron]

Re: Atma preferences

You're curing, Full Moon is one of the easiest Refresh Atmas to get.

Atma that benefit WS spam builds actually benefit WHMs more since the vast majority of WHM damage

You're taking out clubs in Abyssea a lot? Stick with VV and RR if you are.

[Firewind]

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In the times where I get to do damage I find it better for the group that I pull out clubs so I can still throw out heals as required. Me nuking tends to slow the group down a bit and is better left to any BLMs, SCHs and RDMs IMO.

[Raydeus]

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I usually use MM, Beyond and either Full moon or Ambition depending on the circumstances (RDM.) Same as BLM.

Rest is mix and match depending on what I'm fighting at the time.

[Murphie]

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In the times where I get to do damage I find it better for the group that I pull out clubs so I can still throw out heals as required. Me nuking tends to slow the group down a bit and is better left to any BLMs, SCHs and RDMs IMO.

So, like, during seal farming or something?

[Romyro]

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Atma of the Apocalypse - Triple Attack (+15%), Quick Magic (10%), Auto-Reraise III - Bit of a no-brainer really, what WHM wouldn't want this? 10% chance for your spells to be instant cast and have no cooldown plus you never have to worry about Reraise fading at the worst possible time. Triple Attack is just a bonus really and looks awesome for soloing.

I use this one often…but let the record show I hate it. Actually I just hate the quick magic aspect. Somehow, it has done more harm than good. Screws up my timers on Nin a lot. Seems to proc on spells I don’t mean to cast. Messes up when I’m trying to proc on blm (especially AM). Sometimes screws up my Pup magic.

I don’t mind it on whm…but that’s about it. For Nin, I use it strictly for Xp or Farming…sometimes wimpy NMs. Anything that has a potent spike spell, I avoid it like the plague. It has gotten me killed on numerous occasions. Triple/double attack procs while Dual Wielding vs a mob’s Ice Spike that do 100+ damage is not fun.


Anywho…

Atma of the Stout Arm – I like this when I’m on Pup with Rng frame

Since they nerf/fix/adjusted the invincible pet Bsts can have…I find myself using the +element stats a lot more. Lake Lurker on water, Brother wolf on fire, Ascending on Wind…etc. Still missing a few (Ice/Thunder) but plan on getting them asap.

Sometimes for farming random pop items for gil, I’ll go Nin/whm and use Apoc/RR/MM. I like having haste spell over samba and stoneskin to help lessen interrupt rates on shadows. As well as cures, -nas, flash, regen. MM keeps my MP up and the Int tacks a little extra damage on for Ni spells and Elemental WS.

[Taskmage]

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Quick magic is a cute idea that seems like it would annoy me more often than not.

"Okay, it's slept. Let's both do a tier V at :40. ... *Quick Magic* SHIT! ><"

"Okay the mob's almost done casting, if I start my ga3 now it should land clean. *Quick Magic* SHIT! ><"

"Oh, my sneak is wearing in the middle of a bunch of sound aggro. I'll just cancel it right before the spell finishes and I should be fine. *Quick Magic* SHIT! ><"

"Down to one shadow, better cancel into an ichi in case it double attacks.. *Quick Magic* SHIT! ><"

etc etc etc

[Raydeus]

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/


<----- Wanted Quick Magic so badly. But then SE decided to kick me out.

[Murphie]

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Probably not actually the case.

[Raydeus]

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I'm telling you Murphie, they are out to get me!

[Neverslip]

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Lake Lurker on water, Brother wolf on fire, Ascending on Wind

Wondered what some of the others were... Cuz in the words of Firewind:

Wiki's tables are a huge fucking mess

ftyi

Part of the reason I started the thread is that even a thread like this is less cumbersome than the atma table.

Triple/double attack procs while Dual Wielding vs a mob’s Ice Spike that do 100+ damage is not fun.

Amen to that brutha-man. As a THF w/ capped gear haste and bunches of double/triple attk, I turn from the mob then proceed to hit it 6x for 100-300dmg per hit... "Why you dedz, Nevs? I said to turn away..."

Or more recently fighting Melo Melo or the Grauberg mega-boss... "It's MAGIC mode TURN TURN!!! ... gdi someone cured it for 1200"

[Firewind]

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So, like, during seal farming or something?

WHM melee now is where RDM melee was pre-Abyssea. So please let me have my fleeting moments of glory when I have the chance to let rip in melee and actually show that WHMS can put out some very reasonable amounts of damage

Actually it's not that WHM damage is bad, it''s just not good either when compared to what some melee classes can output. Still I rolled a WHM to help out a group. If I wanted to be a melee support class I would have taken Joyeuse COR/DNC or DNC/Anything to the cap first.

[Raydeus]

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The only reason WHM and RDM don't deal better dmg in comparison is lack of better gear (and the 2 handed update.)

[Neverslip]

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I think a WHM might be able to out-dmg my SAM in Aby now.

Boosauce

This claim is completely unsubstanciated and is merely a cry for help to SE