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    I was just curious about what people use in different situations. I don't really think any combo is wrong unless you are doing a disservice to people you are trying to help so I hope this doesn't lead to:

    "Stupid head, why are you using that?"
    "I use it cuz I like it, poop face!!"
    "Well, you're a stupid head!!"
    "Well, you're a poop face!!"

    Not trying to go there. I just would like to understand a bit more about what and why certain atmas are used and when they are most useful. Some are fairly obvious. But some are like, "WTF SE?!?!?!" I will list what I remember of mine...

    ~DNC~
    I usually end up tanking or being back-up tank so I like these:

    Sanguine Scythe - HP, Crit dmg, enmity+ (amazing for tanking... extra HP w/ all the merit abyssites puts me close and sometimes over 3k).
    Razed Ruins - DEX, Crit rate, Crit dmg (DD atma of epic grateness... good for holding hate)
    Voracious Violet - STR, Double attk, Regain (Sweet for Evisceration, double attk w/ regain great for TP'n).
    Impregable Tower - HP+, Mag. Acc., Mag. Crit. Dmg (only for max HP. Add Sangquine Scythe and full Merit abyssites you gots alot of meat shield).
    Cloak and Dagger - Acc. +, Eva +, Death resist (mainly for the evasion bonus, haven't met much I can't hit in Aby yet... maybe Vaudleany).


    ~THF~
    I'm there for TH7-8 so I want to crit more so that the lil placebo number keeps rising:

    Dread (MKD)- Magic Eva, Treasure Hunter +1, Samba duration (I only use this for the TH +1, I guess the magic eva. might MIGHT help sometimes).
    Razed Ruins - see above for description (great atma but I want to crit more and more cuz the TH proc goes up only when you crit, rest is icing on the cake).
    Voracious Violet - see above description (want to hit more so I have more oppurtunity to crit on mob so the double attack is great).
    Gnarled Horn - Counter, Crit rate, AGI (just a crit hit heavy atma).
    Apocolypse - Triple Attack, Quick magic, Auto-Reraise (triple attk for more chances to crit, reraise so mages can concentrate on others while we still have TH being put on the mob).
    Alpha Omega (clearing Proto-Omega) - Triple attk, Attk +50, HP -25% (this one is taking a chance w/ the -25%, but it's alot of Triple Attk, and Attk).

    ~SAM~
    Rarely ever sees Abyssea anymore but when I do go:

    Razed Ruins - DD like this atma... good for hitting things with sharpy pointy.
    Voracious Violet - more STR for hitting with sharp and pointy WSs.
    Stout Arm - STR, attk, Rang. attk (more STR and attk for doing damage <period>).

    ~BLU~
    Haven't taken BLU to abyssea yet, lol. So mostly the HP atmas and VV for curing the BLU rushing back during the Charged Whisker Burn.

    ~Random/Situational~

    Brother Wolf - Magic attk bonus, Magic def. bonus, Fire resist (honestly I've only ever used this for Orthrus and it's the mob you get it from... great fire resistance).
    Earth Wyrm - Earth resist, Dmg taken -10%, Earthday/Earth full benefit bonus (again... I've only ever used this on the mob you get it from, Dragua).

    There are probably more that I use I just can't remember them... these are the main ones I use for the jobs I take into Aby so far.

    What does everyone else use and why?
    Last edited by Neverslip; 06-13-2011, 01:03 PM.
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    aybe, read it again, insert smiley faces, rainbows, and glitter as needed.

  • #2
    Re: Atma preferences

    I don't have enough currently to really HAVE preferences. :/ So I just use casting ones if I'm ranged, and melee ones if I'm meleeing.

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    • #3
      Re: Atma preferences

      Originally posted by Neverslip View Post
      Alpha Omega (both Limbus megaboss clears)
      I thought you only needed Proto-Omega for that, while Proto-Ultima granted you Atma of the Ultimate.
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      • #4
        Re: Atma preferences

        Correct.

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        • #5
          Re: Atma preferences

          Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
          I thought you only needed Proto-Omega for that, while Proto-Ultima granted you Atma of the Ultimate.
          Yeah... my mistake. For some reason I had it in my mind that it was both. You are correct, sir.
          FFxiv ~ (PS3 Beta) 24THM, 16LNC, 16CNJ, 15MRD/GLD/ARC/PUG
          FFxi ~ (Inactive) 99DNC/THF/SAM/BLU

          Any opinions expressed are my own, and potentially unpopular with others. Should this be upsetting, m
          aybe, read it again, insert smiley faces, rainbows, and glitter as needed.

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          • #6
            Re: Atma preferences

            Stop telling me these things, it's just more shit I have to do.
            I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

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            • #7
              Re: Atma preferences

              My apologies... I kinda wanted to know what I may be missing. I got such a huge freakin' list of atmas but I only use a select few. Wondered if anyone could show me some new tricks.
              FFxiv ~ (PS3 Beta) 24THM, 16LNC, 16CNJ, 15MRD/GLD/ARC/PUG
              FFxi ~ (Inactive) 99DNC/THF/SAM/BLU

              Any opinions expressed are my own, and potentially unpopular with others. Should this be upsetting, m
              aybe, read it again, insert smiley faces, rainbows, and glitter as needed.

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              • #8
                Re: Atma preferences

                I don't know much in this instance, but I think you'll find for the vast majority you listed what everyone uses. It wouldn't surprise me if most DD (all DD jobs) just stopped at VV/RR/GH and never even looked at anything else, like Cloak & Dagger.
                I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

                HTTP Error 418 - I'm A Teapot - The resulting entity body MAY be short and stout.

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                • #9
                  Re: Atma preferences

                  I don't actually have any useful to WHMs outside of soloing but this is my Atma Wish List for WHM:

                  Atma of Ambition - Refresh (5MP/tick), Fast Cast (+10%), Movement Speed (+12.5%) - Nice Chunk of Refresh and Fast Cast. Move Speed + looks pretty nice for running mobs back to the tank for if you take hate. Needs a win for A Shantotto Ascension though and with the number of people who have cleared it and don't want to re-do it, so I think I will never see this atma.

                  Atma of the Apocalypse - Triple Attack (+15%), Quick Magic (10%), Auto-Reraise III - Bit of a no-brainer really, what WHM wouldn't want this? 10% chance for your spells to be instant cast and have no cooldown plus you never have to worry about Reraise fading at the worst possible time. Triple Attack is just a bonus really and looks awesome for soloing.

                  Atma of the Rescuer - Magic Defence Bonus (+10%), Fast Cast (+10%), Cure Potency (+10%) - More Cure Potency AND my cures go off 10% faster? <Yes Please>. +MDB is great because it means that I'm that more likely to survive taking an -aga spell to the face. Needs a Dynamis-Xarca win though and since nobody ever does Dynamis anymore, this is going to be another atma I will never see.

                  Atma of Perfect Attendance - Regen (+10HP/tick), Refresh (+5MP/tick), Regain (+1TP/tick) - Basically it's for Regen and Refresh. Regen means I'm not healing myself and Moar Refresh is always welcome for a WHM. This is another Atma that I can only dream of though since it requires all Assault Missions to be cleared.

                  Atma of Harmony - Cure Potency (+10%), Enhancing Magic (+10), Waltz Potency (+10%) - Another WHM's dream. More cures and better Stoneskin that I can pass around with Accession.
                  Rahal Gerrant - Balmung - 188 DRK
                  Reiko Takahashi
                  - Balmung - 182 AST, 191 BLM, 182 SCH, 188 SMN
                  Haters Gonna Hate



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                  • #10
                    Re: Atma preferences

                    As I'm sure you realize, the vast majority of the atmas are mostly situationally useful, and thus most people will stick with a set 3. At least, not until we can (hopefully) equip more than 3.

                    I do know that with BLU your 3 will change based on what you're doing, but it'll still mostly cycle through things like Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate for AoE Burning, with various atmas swappable depending on what you're killing and what spells you're using. Or VV/RR/MM for meriting, etc.

                    For NMs I would probably use, MM/Beyond/Lake Lurker (for Regurgitation), or swap out LL for a CHR Atma if I'm going to use Everyone's Grudge more often. (In our LS we usually just stand back unless needed to proc, so being able to do ranged damage is nice).

                    There are tons of combos beyond that, but that's sort of one of those things you have to figure out as you go, as I'm sure you realize.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Atma preferences

                      Originally posted by Firewind View Post
                      I don't actually have any useful to WHMs outside of soloing but this is my Atma Wish List for WHM:

                      Atma of Ambition - Refresh (5MP/tick), Fast Cast (+10%), Movement Speed (+12.5%) - Nice Chunk of Refresh and Fast Cast. Move Speed + looks pretty nice for running mobs back to the tank for if you take hate. Needs a win for A Shantotto Ascension though and with the number of people who have cleared it and don't want to re-do it, so I think I will never see this atma.
                      Basically no one in the LS has completed the 3 addons.

                      You're also missing the biggest mage Atma (MM) and probably one of the easiest to get, Full Moon.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Atma preferences

                        I would like to complete them. The three armor pieces are situationally useful for BLU.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Atma preferences

                          Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                          I think you'll find for the vast majority you listed what everyone uses.
                          Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                          I'm sure you realize, the vast majority of the atmas are mostly situationally useful,
                          Yup... but I still wonder. I liked reading Firewind's post cuz I begin to understand other jobs I never play just a bit more. Also I appreciate yours, Murphie, cuz I am growing BLU and really have had very little direction from people I know about the job and the guides on wiki really don't go past 75 and are lacking anyway.
                          FFxiv ~ (PS3 Beta) 24THM, 16LNC, 16CNJ, 15MRD/GLD/ARC/PUG
                          FFxi ~ (Inactive) 99DNC/THF/SAM/BLU

                          Any opinions expressed are my own, and potentially unpopular with others. Should this be upsetting, m
                          aybe, read it again, insert smiley faces, rainbows, and glitter as needed.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Atma preferences

                            Full Moon is actually not *that* useful for WHM since it gives INT and MAB. MAB is situationally useful for a WHM since it's not often that you will be called upon to nuke and even then it's only to proc Yellow.

                            Atma that benefit WS spam builds actually benefit WHMs more since the vast majority of WHM damage come from Weapon Skills. I think if WHMs got Holy II and Banish IV, and WHMs could at least hit as hard with them as RDMs can with their nukes, then going for a sleep/nuke strategy might work.

                            Merciless Matriarch...Fast Cast and -Emnity is nice, I guess I should add that to my list.
                            Rahal Gerrant - Balmung - 188 DRK
                            Reiko Takahashi
                            - Balmung - 182 AST, 191 BLM, 182 SCH, 188 SMN
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                            • #15
                              Re: Atma preferences

                              He means Minikin Monstrosity. 10MP of Refresh/tick.

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