I don't understand the mentality of people lately. This has happened to me twice in the past week. Perhaps it's more of a rant, but I don't get why people won't accept the NM system, as broken as it is, as something we have to deal with.
First instance: I was in Xarcabard and a friend of mine in my LS asked me to check Biast. I run over to look, and lo-and-behold it's up. A RDM is holding it by gravity kiting. I was with a NIN friend at the time and we were just watching the RDM kite it. Apparently the RDM didn't know what they were doing because they kept turning to face the mob and would get Petrified from Petro Eyes. I told my LS friend to head out. 5 mins later, the RDM gets petrified for the third time and dies. My NIN friend then vokes Biast and we start fighting it.
About 2 minutes after we start fighting, my LS friend gets disconnected. I ask my NIN friend if I should R1 (I was on SMN at the time) the RDM and get them in to lot the helm if it drops, since neither of us wanted the helm and my friend who did disconnected. He then proceeds to tell me that the RDM is sending him nasty /tells about how we're selfish pricks, yada yada. So I say screw that and let them sit there. When we get the mob to about 50%, the RDM's LS finally shows up and their PLD tries to "steal" it back by tossing Cure IV on my NIN friend and using Invincible (he apparently doesn't understand the new claim system). The RDM has been R3'd and is now spewing profanities in /say about how we are selfish. My LS friend still has not come back from his disconnect, so I ask the RDM's LS (I stuck the RDM on blist by now) who they were here to get the helm for. We didn't get a drop, but I had planned on inviting them to lot had it done so.
Second instance: I have been camping Bonnacon for the past week to get Cure Clogs for myself. Just this morning I was farming Buffalo for about 3-4 hours, no pop, then had to go help my LS with an event. After the event, I come back to try to pop the NM again and there are two people camping Bonnacon now (RDM/NIN and WHM). 15 mins later, the NM pops and they claim it. Stupidly, they fight up top (this area has 5 min repops) and get an add. I finish up the mob I was fighting and am sitting here resting for MP while watching them fight.
They panic and drag the NM off to another area while picking up another add. The WHM is sleeping the adds and RDM is fighting the NM. WHM runs out of MP and dies, and the RDM dies shortly after. I let the NM wander off and regain its HP and then claim it. The RDM then runs up to me and screams and yells at how how I "fucked them over" and how selfish I am. He goes on a tyrade how it was their NM and I stole it. I told him I let them try and handle it and they couldn't (to which his only response was "BS," though I don't understand how wiping is being able to handle it); not my fault.
Seriously, what kind of crap is this? Are there lines for NMs? Do we have to be in a queue to get claim? "Oh, sorry, I was here first, you'll have to wait." THAT is being selfish. We're going to act like 5-year-olds at NMs and expect to have "do-overs" if we wipe? Try pulling that kind of crap at Nidhogg.
I don't consider myself a selfish person, but I will be competetive at NMs. I will not play dirty and attempt to MPK people. I will not spam abilities and try to steal claim during a fight. But if you can't handle an NM on your own and die, you lost it. No do-overs. If it were a popped NM, it would have despawned after you died and you would have lost your trigger.
This is just really getting to me being treated like crap whenever I'm at an NM. I never expect anyone to help me whatsoever when I'm fighting an NM. If I die, it's my own fault for being under- or unprepared. I don't even expect a Raise. Sure, I would love a system where all NMs were forced pops and we could do them at our leisure without being forced to compete with people. But, unfortunately, Square seems to think otherwise and we're forced to deal with the NM system as it is. I've lost many an NM in my time. Don't be a sore loser and throw a temper tantrum if you lose one.
First instance: I was in Xarcabard and a friend of mine in my LS asked me to check Biast. I run over to look, and lo-and-behold it's up. A RDM is holding it by gravity kiting. I was with a NIN friend at the time and we were just watching the RDM kite it. Apparently the RDM didn't know what they were doing because they kept turning to face the mob and would get Petrified from Petro Eyes. I told my LS friend to head out. 5 mins later, the RDM gets petrified for the third time and dies. My NIN friend then vokes Biast and we start fighting it.
About 2 minutes after we start fighting, my LS friend gets disconnected. I ask my NIN friend if I should R1 (I was on SMN at the time) the RDM and get them in to lot the helm if it drops, since neither of us wanted the helm and my friend who did disconnected. He then proceeds to tell me that the RDM is sending him nasty /tells about how we're selfish pricks, yada yada. So I say screw that and let them sit there. When we get the mob to about 50%, the RDM's LS finally shows up and their PLD tries to "steal" it back by tossing Cure IV on my NIN friend and using Invincible (he apparently doesn't understand the new claim system). The RDM has been R3'd and is now spewing profanities in /say about how we are selfish. My LS friend still has not come back from his disconnect, so I ask the RDM's LS (I stuck the RDM on blist by now) who they were here to get the helm for. We didn't get a drop, but I had planned on inviting them to lot had it done so.
Second instance: I have been camping Bonnacon for the past week to get Cure Clogs for myself. Just this morning I was farming Buffalo for about 3-4 hours, no pop, then had to go help my LS with an event. After the event, I come back to try to pop the NM again and there are two people camping Bonnacon now (RDM/NIN and WHM). 15 mins later, the NM pops and they claim it. Stupidly, they fight up top (this area has 5 min repops) and get an add. I finish up the mob I was fighting and am sitting here resting for MP while watching them fight.
They panic and drag the NM off to another area while picking up another add. The WHM is sleeping the adds and RDM is fighting the NM. WHM runs out of MP and dies, and the RDM dies shortly after. I let the NM wander off and regain its HP and then claim it. The RDM then runs up to me and screams and yells at how how I "fucked them over" and how selfish I am. He goes on a tyrade how it was their NM and I stole it. I told him I let them try and handle it and they couldn't (to which his only response was "BS," though I don't understand how wiping is being able to handle it); not my fault.
Seriously, what kind of crap is this? Are there lines for NMs? Do we have to be in a queue to get claim? "Oh, sorry, I was here first, you'll have to wait." THAT is being selfish. We're going to act like 5-year-olds at NMs and expect to have "do-overs" if we wipe? Try pulling that kind of crap at Nidhogg.
I don't consider myself a selfish person, but I will be competetive at NMs. I will not play dirty and attempt to MPK people. I will not spam abilities and try to steal claim during a fight. But if you can't handle an NM on your own and die, you lost it. No do-overs. If it were a popped NM, it would have despawned after you died and you would have lost your trigger.
This is just really getting to me being treated like crap whenever I'm at an NM. I never expect anyone to help me whatsoever when I'm fighting an NM. If I die, it's my own fault for being under- or unprepared. I don't even expect a Raise. Sure, I would love a system where all NMs were forced pops and we could do them at our leisure without being forced to compete with people. But, unfortunately, Square seems to think otherwise and we're forced to deal with the NM system as it is. I've lost many an NM in my time. Don't be a sore loser and throw a temper tantrum if you lose one.
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