Confusion Over The QUest For Savage Gear. Please Help!

[Snowball]

Okay, I know I've had some of you trying to help out by going through discussions on this before, but something has come up which has confused me somewhat.

This quest for RSE gear again. (mithran savage gear/equipmnet) The quest is called "The Goblin Tailor" which I looked up "HERE"

Now, it says that you can go into one of the dungeons (whichever one you are told to go in by Guttrix, the gobbie npc in Jeuno) as THF and use skeleton keys on the chests, in attempt to find the magical pattern. (I completed the quest for the keyring belt a while ago, and so I have the ability to dispense skele keys ) But as you can tell, my THF is only LvL 20 right now, so I am quite reluctant to go in there at that LvL. So I guess I could take a stack of Silent Oil, and the other one for Invisible too. (can't remember it what it is right now)

But then there might be another option too, of which I am unsure if it will work or not.

Is it possible to go in as WHM, (since that is my highest job level right now) with THF as sub, and still pick the lock(s) on the chest(s), or will it only work when THF is main?

If that is the case, then I leave myself with 2 choices.

Either :

1) Go in as THF, (armed with my nifty little skeleton keys ) but try to be careful of aggro. I guess you have to wait for sneak and invis to wear off before lockpicking.
And I'll have to find some quick way to get back to Jeuno from one of the dungeons too if THF is my main. (I think the quest is timed, though I'm not sure by how much) Maybe a warp scroll, or if my job LvL is high enough, have BLM as sub and use warp from there. (setting my hp in Jeuno of course though)

Or :

2) I'll have to go in as WHM/THF and just start killing stuff until a key drops.
But how do I quickly get back to town afterwards though? Buy a warp scroll from the gate guard in Sandy (my starting city) beforerhand maybe? Or is there any other way?

Oh, another thing.....
If I'm correct in saying, the chests can spawn at random points in the dungeons. Is that right? I've been loking at the chest locations on the maps, and feel they maybe a bit hard to find if they are not in the easiest of places within the dungeons. So I don't feel very confident about this either.

Anyone know of any suggestions on what I can do please?

[Jarre]

Re: Confusion Over The QUest For Savage Gear. Please Help!

For one thing for the gobbie tailor quest to get your RSE there are 3 zones dependant on what day of the week it is and whos races turn it is. Check the vanadiel Navi on the front page of the forum which tells you when your slot is.

Use the maps here http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/ for locations of chests to help you plan your routes, I would advise taking a warp scroll each time to quickly exit especially if you have had to go deep into each dungeon (and also if some one shuts the wrong door in Gusgen mines making you need to take a long detour to get out again)

Most of the mobs in these area are from 17-34. so will all agro.

Ordella caves their are goblins which agro to sight so you would probably need some Prism powder.

Research the mobs in the area to identify which you need to use to not get agro. remember one chest at a time, then you have to go back trade the patten then restart the quest. There are 4 items you need.

I am unsure at how good being able to pick locks (if at all) when thf is a sub as I would suggest blm as a main thf sub just for the warp ability. So if anyone knows please add.

I have soloed 2 of my pieces with my lvl 34 pld when i was doing it (hands and feet for the extra MP without diminishing my DEF and VIT.)

Another Idea is you could alays farm the key with whm/blm you shouldn't have too much problems especially in Gusgen as its mainly undead so cures/regen etc will work a treat on the mobs you need to get keys from. BLM sub for a few nukes will help as well. Yeah picking locks with thf sounds less hassel, but with teh risk of agro and the constantly needing to keep silent oils and prism poders up (not forgetting the cost as well) the extra time to farm the key is probably a better idea, hell get a LS member to assist, thats what linkshells are for, a community to help each other.

Oh and yes Chests spawn randomly so at times you have to circumnavigate the whole map to find the sodding things (yeah thats speaking from experience)

edit:-

Your 36 WHm yes? well sub BLM job = 18 which is when warp comes in....

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Confusion Over The QUest For Savage Gear. Please Help!

You can't pick locks with THF as sub. So if you wanted to go that route, you'd have to be THF main. The chances of success with lock picking appears to be based on your level as a THF relative to the level of the mobs in the zone. If you are at or above the level of the mobs that drop the relevant key, then you have a good chance at successfully picking the lock. If your profile is correct, you are quite a few levels below even the weakest key dropping mob in the 3 zones. If you fail to pick the lock, you might be hit with a curse that prevents you from being able to try again for a while. Thankfully though, you won't have to worry about spawning a mimic (since those only come from coffers and not chests apparently).

I strongly suggest doing Ordelles rather than Shakrami or Gusgen. With Shakrami, there's a drop-down that separates one set of chest spawn points from the rest. Once you drop down, the only way to get back to the other set of spawn points is to zone out into Buburimu and jog back to the Tahrongi entrance. With Gusgen, the door switches prevent you from getting back to two of the spawn points once you are past the first set of doors, unless you have someone who can stay back and hit the switches. With Ordelles, you can reach all of the spawn points on your own without having to zone out.

WHM/THF isn't exactly a melee powerhouse, so you might find it difficult to farm the mobs that drop the chest key, regardless of which zone you pick. The weakest key dropping mobs are Goliath Beetle (29-31 Ordelles), Wendigo (26-30 Gusgen, skeleton type mob), and Abyss Worm (27-30 Shakrami). I don't remember where the Wendigo spawns are in Gusgen. But I do know that Goliath Beetles and Abyss Worms have Ancient Bats and Seeker Bats spawn near them. At your level, those bats will aggro you while you fight. And that will likely seal your fate.

My suggestion: either find a friend close to your level or higher with a DD job to help farm the key you need, or give it a try as THF. Even if you fail as a level 20 THF, the worst that could happen is you die and lose a rather small amount of exp. Actually, that's not the worst outcome. The worst outcome is you succeed in picking the lock, get all psyched up, only to find out you got the time wrong for your Race.

[Snowball]

Re: Confusion Over The QUest For Savage Gear. Please Help!

For one thing for the gobbie tailor quest to get your RSE there are 3 zones dependant on what day of the week it is and whos races turn it is. Check the vanadiel Navi on the front page of the forum which tells you when your slot is.

Okay, so the Navi clock on the front of this site is easy as hell to find, and also very useful too, and usually I only use it for checking what the ingame time is and the weather from each of the little elemental icons e.t.c. too and could NOT find a way to use it in relation to each of the races at first.

It took me a while to realise (after maximmising it ot make it bigger) I could see extra bits of info through use of the little icons at the bottom, and managed to find the race info on the little armour icon thingy.

Through people's replies for this quest on "alla" I also found this site Click Here which helps to know out of game which race's week is to do this quest.

I'm also using it for the guild opening times at the bottom. It helps to know out of game when the guild shops are opened/closed so that you can go in at certain times when you need to buy stuff.

Very handy indeed that!

Use the maps here http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/ for locations of chests to help you plan your routes.

I guess those would be the locations at which the chests spawn at, but not all at the same time.

You wouldn't happen to have the actual Vana 'diel atlas "book" of maps at all, would you?

If anyone out there does...... then please could they let me know if it has all the treasure spawn points and the lists of all the mobs in all the zones that the online version has. I might think of buying one if it does.

I would advise taking a warp scroll each time to quickly exit especially if you have had to go deep into each dungeon (and also if some one shuts the wrong door in Gusgen mines making you need to take a long detour to get out again)

Most of the mobs in these area are from 17-34. so will all agro.
In Ordelle's Caves there are goblins which agro to sight so you would probably need some Prism powder.

Research the mobs in the area to identify which you need to use to not get agro. remember one chest at a time, then you have to go back trade the patten then restart the quest. There are 4 items you need.

I'm thinking of going in there as my WHM instead, (WHM/BLM)
so I may not need to buy any prism powders or silence oils, hence the use of "Sneak" and "Invis."

I am unsure at how good being able to pick locks (if at all) when thf is a sub as I would suggest blm as a main thf sub just for the warp ability. So if anyone knows please add.

Confirmed below I see.

I have soloed 2 of my pieces with my lvl 34 pld when i was doing it (hands and feet for the extra MP without diminishing my DEF and VIT.)

Another Idea is you could always farm the key with whm/blm you shouldn't have too much problems especially in Gusgen as its mainly undead so cures/regen etc will work a treat on the mobs you need to get keys from. BLM sub for a few nukes will help as well. Yeah picking locks with thf sounds less hassel, but with the risk of aggro and the constantly needing to keep silent oils and prism powders up (not forgetting the cost as well)

the extra time to farm the key is probably a better idea, hell get a LS member to assist, thats what linkshells are for, a community to help each other.

Unfortunately my LS is as good as DEAD rigt now.
The most number of players I have seen in it, in day, is 3. The leader isn't exactly present in it either, and when he's ingame, I think he's in some other LS doing other stuff, as I know that a lot of players can choose to be in more than 1 LS if they want to, but obviously not at the same time though.

However, I made a friend who I speak to on and off, so if I'm stuck, I may ask for their help instead

Oh and yes. Chests spawn randomly so at times you have to circumnavigate the whole map to find the sodding things (yeah thats speaking from experience)

OUCH! Sounds like it will take a bit of tme to find one then.
I'm thinking of going in at any time to farm the key first, (regardless of which race week it is) taking up some time, then waiting for the mithra race week, then going in to find a chest, which will hopefully wil take less time since I already found the key first.

Edit:-
Your 36 WHm yes?

Yep. That is clearly and most definitely correct indeed!

Well sub BLM job = 18 which is when warp comes in....

18.... which is half of 36. So all sub spells are granted when your main is double the sub spells levels, correct?

I've always though though........ there will be some spells that a main job cannot receive from a sub, since you cannot go any higher in level to receive them.

Take mine for e.g.
My BLM reaches 38. (yes, I know that's going to take quite a while, but I'm only using it as an e.g.) 2 x 38 = 76.

MY WHM won't be able to gain any spells from BLM (sub) from LvL 38 onwards then, if you catch you drift. And the same apllies the other way round too, (if it was BLM/WHM) and for any other jobs with spells and abilties too.
I think I have that correct..... I hope!

[Snowball]

Re: Confusion Over The QUest For Savage Gear. Please Help!

You can't pick locks with THF as sub. So if you wanted to go that route, you'd have to be THF main. The chances of success with lock picking appears to be based on your level as a THF relative to the level of the mobs in the zone. If you are at or above the level of the mobs that drop the relevant key, then you have a good chance at successfully picking the lock. If your profile is correct, you are quite a few levels below even the weakest key dropping mob in the 3 zones. If you fail to pick the lock, you might be hit with a curse that prevents you from being able to try again for a while. Thankfully though, you won't have to worry about spawning a mimic (since those only come from coffers and not chests apparently).

Yeah, I know about mimics. They're also avaliable in another game I play. (Neverwinter Nights) I wonder if it's ever so easy to get confused by them though, because you could go up to one, expecting to lift the lid and find treasure inside, but the next minute....... WHAM! It goes chasing after you, snapping at your legs.

I strongly suggest doing Ordelles rather than Shakrami or Gusgen. With Shakrami, there's a drop-down that separates one set of chest spawn points from the rest. Once you drop down, the only way to get back to the other set of spawn points is to zone out into Buburimu and jog back to the Tahrongi entrance. With Gusgen, the door switches prevent you from getting back to two of the spawn points once you are past the first set of doors, unless you have someone who can stay back and hit the switches. With Ordelles, you can reach all of the spawn points on your own without having to zone out.
WHM/THF isn't exactly a melee powerhouse, so you might find it difficult to farm the mobs that drop the chest key, regardless of which zone you pick. The weakest key dropping mobs are Goliath Beetle (29-31 Ordelles), Wendigo (26-30 Gusgen, skeleton type mob), and Abyss Worm (27-30 Shakrami). I don't remember where the Wendigo spawns are in Gusgen. But I do know that Goliath Beetles and Abyss Worms have Ancient Bats and Seeker Bats spawn near them. At your level, those bats will aggro you while you fight. And that will likely seal your fate.
My suggestion: either find a friend close to your level or higher with a DD job to help farm the key you need, or give it a try as THF. Even if you fail as a level 20 THF, the worst that could happen is you die and lose a rather small amount of exp. Actually, that's not the worst outcome. The worst outcome is you succeed in picking the lock, get all psyched up, only to find out you got the time wrong for your Race.

On the whole, your reply seems to be a bit of a put down, because you are not leaving me with many good choices around this, are you?

Okay, originally I WAS going to go into Gusgen to this quest, because I have been in there once, (well about 3-4 times already, but not round the whole of the dungeon though) recently already to do the WHM Tele quest for level 36, and thought it might be just as easy to go back and do the quest for mithra savage gear too, but you've made going in there for this now, sound rather awkward if I don't have anyone to help me, including Shakrami too. So I've decided to take your advice and head into Ordelle's Caves instead.

I've actually just come back from going down there just a few mins ago (this place is somewhat familiar to me too. The last time I went in there was about 2-3 years ago when I got involved in doing Eco Warrior for Sandy. I've done it a couple of times in the past. A very enjoyable quest too I must say!) with my WHM/BLM.
Took me a while to find the key mobs, and dropped down the wrong hole at first too.

When I found them, they all checked as DC, which could be a bit difficult right now.
Couldn't see any goliath beetles at first though, but they were in a narrow ally way, and these are the easiest right now, like you said. They check as EP for me, but with high defence, and managed to kill one. (but ended up getting killed a couple of mins later by charging through a group of mobs with only about a quarter of hp left)

But anyway...... my best decision now, is that I'm going to try and get a pt to 38,
(with my WHM of course) then go back down there then, which will hopefully get the rest of the mobs (goblin furrier, Pathfinder, stroper, smithy e.t.c) to check as EP, and be a bit more easier.

So that's what I will do now!

By the way.... what does DD mean? I can't work that out.