Grim Cuirass Set?

[Emmanuell]

I recently purchased a grim cuirass. Is there an actually set with hands, legs, feet, and head? If not what goes good with the grim cuirass?

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Could use a little bit of help here guys...

[Murphie]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Why on earth would you spend (on average) about half a million gil for a piece of armor you're not even sure how to use?

It does not have corresponding hands/feet/leg/head pieces, however. You'll have to work it into your other armor. I suppose it's an ok PDT piece, and it looks as though if you've capped accuracy and haste in other areas, you could wear this for TP, but I can't think of why you would. Looks vaguely ok for any WSing you would have with a STR mod. I'm not sure which job you bought it for, so I can't honestly say.

[Emmanuell]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

I am using it for DRK/DNC in campaign at the moment. I like the body armor and I got it for 400K in Jueno on Odin server. Just need to figure out what I want to match it with I guess. Thanks for your input.

[Taskmage]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

It's not part of an armor set. What "goes good" with it depends on your job and what you're using it for. If TP, haste gear; if WS other STR gear; if damage negation then other gear that has that stat.

I can't think of an way to say this nicely. How did you get to level 80 with enough gil to casually buy a grim cuirass without learning how to dress yourself?

[Emmanuell]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Well, I just started playing again about a month ago now. My BST is level 89 at the moment and I was tired of wearing the same gear for both since level 78. I saw the body piece and I bought it. I didn't do my homework I just assumed other pieces would match. I am level 86 DRK at the moment so once I get to level 87 I will see what I can pair it with. If not I can always try to sell it.

[Taskmage]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Okay. Well it's a really good piece, so you didn't choose poorly. It sounds like you need a crash course in melee though, which is what this handy thread is for: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/par...s-dummies.html

In a nutshell, when you're building TP your first priority is to make sure you have around 95% accuracy, then focus on getting as close to 26% haste as you can, followed by double attack mods and then +attack and +STR. Grim Cuirass can be great for that, but it's usually the last type of thing you'd focus on. For WS, every one is slightly different but as a DRK you probably can't go wrong stacking as much STR as you can, so you're golden there.

[Emmanuell]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Oh I have plenty of strength... 81 STR with my level and 70+ STR with gear equipped right now. Thanks for the other tips as well.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Meh.

[Emmanuell]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

So, what is Meh about... I am listening?

Meh.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

In a nutshell, when you're building TP your first priority is to make sure you have around 95% accuracy, then focus on getting as close to 26% haste as you can,

Strictly speaking, unless you're whiffing, like, 50% of the time (which is very hard to do as a Dark Knight these days), 26% Haste should be higher priority than capping hit rate.

The rest of your statement is completely spot-on, though.

[Murphie]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

If you're not hitting, you're not critting. As a DRG I used to say.

[Taskmage]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Strictly speaking, unless you're whiffing, like, 50% of the time (which is very hard to do as a Dark Knight these days), 26% Haste should be higher priority than capping hit rate.

The rest of your statement is completely spot-on, though.

If you want to get down to it, 70% hit rate is the cutoff at which capping haste results in an equal increase to capping accuracy. Above that number the comparison becomes more favorable to haste, below, the reverse. Of course you really want to cap both and as you say it's hard not to cap accuracy against most targets these days just by having reasonably ungimp skill levels.

[Armando]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

If you want to get down to it, 70% hit rate is the cutoff at which capping haste results in an equal increase to capping accuracy. Above that number the comparison becomes more favorable to haste, below, the reverse. Of course you really want to cap both and as you say it's hard not to cap accuracy against most targets these days just by having reasonably ungimp skill levels.

To expand on this clever answer (never occurred to me to find that number), this is true iff you have no other source of haste.

With Haste spell cutoff point is 67%.
With Hasso, the cutoff point is 68.6%
With Haste + Hasso, the cutoff point is 63.33%

Or, more generally, 95 * (0.75 - Other Haste%)/(1 - Other Haste%)

[Emmanuell]

Re: Grim Cuirass Set?

Okay so last night I decided to put the grim cuirass back in the auction house. It is a nice piece of armor but with nothing to complement it... It just sticks out as an over priced piece.... Oh well you live and learn!